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Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Why is that your goal?

At this point I think the burden of proof should be on ML people to explain why that shouldn't be my goal. Every person in that industry has stated that the technology is going to displace 30% of jobs within the decade. Why should anybody support something which is certain to absolutely destroy society while simultaneously having no positive payoff?

So it's not really LLMs you want to see fail, it's the businesses people are building around them. I can sympathize with that for sure but to me it seems obvious that there's many potentially beneficial applications of the technology that don't involve taking jobs.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea. It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.

This is how the world works, sadly. We only hear about this because Elon Musk is famous.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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FYI X has relaxed the login prompt (at least for me). You can again see the post without an account, but not the thread.

I created an account for a product I am currently working on and got suspended after a week or so. Didn't make any tweet. Didn't even login or use it. Now when I open Twitter/X it just shows I was banned. I honestly wonder how that site it still in operation and still has real users after all of this.

Me too! I'm working on deep-bloom, and registered an x account. Even bought the premium. Then I got banned for no reason. They don't even cancel the premium, you have to jumpy through the hoops to cancel it manually. Probably did me a favour.

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I wonder what would happen if Musk just paid $1 million to every single women who was willing to be inseminated with his sperm and $100,000/year/child to raise them and he ended up having thousands of kids.

I thought he was doing something like that already.

he normally uses surrogates and is only up to 12 or so, far cry from thousands.

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> Why on earth would this be the case? Do you hear yourself? Here’s the answer: no, obviously. I have no skin in the game. I just hypothesised as to why the timing might overlap with your new government's crusade > If Elon thinks they’re too high, the new administration can negotiate them more vigorously next time around. They can take a position of across the board cuts if they want, but obviously the outcome is lik…

You really do have skin in the game, given how many medicines you use and will use are also developed with NIH funding. Have you considered whether this was driven by the relative positions of Jupiter and Mercury? Or perhaps by the swirling of the tea leaves in Musk’s cup? It’s driven by a reckless attempt to reduce spending without having to think through the consequences because it’d take “too long.” I’m not arguin…

> You really do have skin in the game, given how many medicines you use and will use are also developed with NIH funding.

I meant to say that I don't have an opinion on the DEI angle, it doesn't affect me in any way in another country.

> There is no reason to be jolting any of these systems this severely. The entire emergency is contrived in order to force through an ideological purification.

Whether it is needed or not, and the motivation for it is completely unrelated to what I said.

> Your version just overlays wishful thinking.

No, it is more factual. There is no reason your hypothesis that it will affect medical research will be true, especially given the rates are just being brought to standard, so unless you can provide a concrete justification, you need to qualify it with "could" like I did, otherwise you are communicating misinformation, there is simply no two ways about it.

> All language is lossy compression, obviously.

This is pedantry. You can't claim that and proceed to throw away important information like what is fact and what is hypothesis when compressing, especially when said fact is a historical action taken by someone.

> Have you considered whether this was driven by the relative positions of Jupiter and Mercury? Or perhaps by the swirling of the tea leaves in Musk’s cup? It’s driven by a reckless attempt to reduce spending without having to think through the consequences because it’d take “too long.”

> Your version just overlays wishful thinking.

Sounds like your version is driven by inherent bias, rather than a coherent argument against what I said - why bringing the administrative overhead rates _equal_ to what is allowed by the NSF, _every_ other grant, and the NIH itself just a few years back, would magically affect research.

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Could you add more context? I’m unfamiliar with Grok. Is Elon being a hypocrite?

Grok has absolutely no safety mecanism in place, you can use it for anything it will not block a query, all under the pretext of "free speech". And it's not open source either

why are you pro censorship?

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea. It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.

I am normally NOT the person who wants to see people not make as much money as they [legally] can, but we see how much of a wrecking ball a person-state can really be.

It's made worse by the fact that isolation makes them literally detached from reality. COVID completely broke some billionaire brains as it was adding to their loneliness.

How long before they start forming their own armies to cause geopolitical havoc?

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