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Post by uniq7 »

_7acn wrote: post #876

I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

Never had TikTok, but that's exactly what I thought when Youtube introduced Shorts and I found myself spending long sessions in them.

However, now I think it's the same infinite scroll we already had in twitter and reddit -- but instead of text and images, now it's just videos.

At the beginning the content was really dumb and bad, but after some time it became way better. Now my feed is basically cooking recipes, chemistry experiments, interesting physics facts, bits from my favorite comedians, etc. Maybe Youtube learned my tastes, or maybe the content creators learned how to exploit better the platform. Either way I'd say I'm happy with the result now.

I still think some people are getting brainwashed by certain content, but in the same way as they were getting brainwashed in twitter and reddit.

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Post by _heimdall »

Anarch157a wrote: post #879
ornornor wrote: post #841

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho to the rescue!! For those who haven’t seen it yet, go watch Idiocracy from Mike Judge. It’s a preview of the years to come.

More like a documentary of the last eight.

The last two felt more like Weekend at Bernie's.

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Post by mihaaly »

iknowSFR wrote: post #628
blahedo wrote: post #483

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> flip-flop so quickly The timing and phrasing make it clear that this was planned and negotiated in advance, and the shutdown was just for show in order to be able to post a memo about how "President Trump" saved it. If actual negotiation had to occur, it would not have happened in the twelve hours between midnight and noon on Sunday morning. The point of the stunt was to persuade large numbers of younger folks that…

What’s the evidence of this? It seems highly plausible but do we have any proof besides speculation?

Do you need to eat shit to know it is shit?

Isn't it enough to see, smell, you have to touch and eat it repeatedly so you can conclude: yes, this is shit. You are now expert in shit eating and the professional opinion is that this is really shit, no mistake is made here!?

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by lupusreal »

rottencupcakes wrote: post #809
Rapzid wrote: post #452

I guess we know now why TikTok voluntarily went dark. Wonder which companies will be assured by TikTok's assurances there will be no consequences for helping them break the law. I just hope this causes congress to dig their heels in again. Almost can't believe what I'm seeing.

It would only take 38% of Republicans in the Senate to vote with Democrats to remove Trump from office to get him out of politics for good. Defying the literal law on a matter of national security certainly qualifies as treason, or at least a vague "high crime and misdemeanor." Now that he's done his job for the Republicans (delivered a red wave), is there any benefit to keeping a kleptocratic monster in power? Shoul…

I downvoted your comment because you're wrong. The constitution defines treason pretty clearly, you're not going to get a treason conviction without the US being in a legally and officially declared war with China. There has never been a treason conviction for any act committed after WW2, the last time the US was officially in a declared war. The Rosenberg's selling nuke secrets, the Walkers who decrypted Navy communications for the Soviets, those guys who went over to the Taliban or ISIS... all highly illegal but NONE of it was treason.

Furthermore your comment is poorly thought out. Impeaching Trump would be very bad for the popularity of Republican senators, anybody should be aware of that regardless of how you personally feel about the people involved.

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Post by _heimdall »

ActorNightly wrote: post #861
lumost wrote: post #266

This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

If you are surprised this happens given Jan 6 events you have been living under a rock. There is a good chance there will be no more fair elections in US.

This was a pretty big talking point during the election, towards the end I didn't go a day without hearing about how Trump will end democracy or how democracy was on the ballot.

What the hell happened? For anyone that honestly believes that, why pack up and go home when Trump wins the election?

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Post by _heimdall »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #870
lumost wrote: post #266

This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

The president can pardon whomever he wants. It's in the U.S. Constitution.

Do pardons extend to companies? That could be a really unintended consequence of the whole "companies are people" precedent.

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Post by flipbrad »

Brystephor wrote: post #34

What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it? Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?

I dont think we know the actual range of motives for shutdown. Oracle may have forced it, for instance.

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Post by mihaaly »

lumost wrote: post #266

This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

Trying and doing takes a minute for him, fixing it is a long process with consequence on all others mostly.

All those opportunist-narcissist shit-stirrers out there rely on the prudent and consequently slow self fixing mechanisms of societies (beyond the dumb and lazy childish masses vegetate below these figures and so looking up to them) like viruses on the delayed adaptation of the immune system. The host that feed them may easily die this way? Not their problem!! They have their shine and rule moment and they do not have much of miserable and futile life left anyway, f*ck others!

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

uniq7 wrote: post #881
_7acn wrote: post #876

I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

Never had TikTok, but that's exactly what I thought when Youtube introduced Shorts and I found myself spending long sessions in them. However, now I think it's the same infinite scroll we already had in twitter and reddit -- but instead of text and images, now it's just videos. At the beginning the content was really dumb and bad, but after some time it became way better. Now my feed is basically cooking recipes, che…

Even if it is recipes and chemistry it's the format that's the issue, it still fries your dopamine and lowers your attention span.

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Post by tklanb »

seanvelasco wrote: post #820
nikkwong wrote: post #368

The level of naiveté in this discussion is absolutely astonishing to me. People are seeming to forget that dysfunctional states (totalitarian, facist, the like) all are sprung from one common thread: control of the mind through propaganda. We already have evidence that the CCP or otherwise is manipulating Tiktok's algorithm to influence American minds [1]. This was one study, by one relatively small and underpowered…

THANK YOU! you articulated it perfectly the issue is not that tiktok harvests user data, not free speech, not that China is refuses to let US counterparts operate in China - the issue is, TikTok is an insidious propaganda machine that influences our your people, and entire generation, to abandon their values and replace them with views favorable to the CCP daily, hourly, and each minute young people interact with Tik…

The Guardian and many other newspapers appear to be controlled by the CCP as well:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/dec/23/israel...

The UN is controlled by the CCP:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/11/1157286

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