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Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by BehindBlueEyes » Sun, Jan 12, 2025, 2:20 AM UTC

semiquaver wrote: post #783

benhurmarcel wrote: post #623

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For seniors maybe but for juniors it’s not rare to have to fly out in your own dime unfortunately. For finding my first job I had to pay for a few trips myself (flights and hotel).

Just to counter your anecdote with another of equal value, the only time I’ve ever traveled for an interview was for my first software dev job when I had zero experience. Flight and hotel was paid for by the company. I’ve never heard of anyone other than an employer paying for interview travel expenses.

Same, I was always either able to interview fully remotely or had my trip and hotel paid for even for junior roles.

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by BehindBlueEyes » Sun, Jan 12, 2025, 4:08 PM UTC

ponector wrote: post #760

runako wrote: post #434

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> it's just because they can't afford to Wait, is this another norm that corporate America broke in the last couple of decades? Do people now expect to pay to fly to interviews? When did this happen?

I have a better idea: pay to get through every step of the recruiting process, with steep increase for each stage. Who paid the most - get the job!

There's already industries that think you should pay them for the honor to work for them. (at least companies within said industries i worked for, in gaming, luxury, sports... it's not uncommon). I'm surprised they didn't charge for applications but they'll definitely pay lower wages because the rest is paid for by having their name on your resume.

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by BehindBlueEyes » Sun, Jan 12, 2025, 5:11 PM UTC

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #769

yoshicoder wrote: post #707

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See after just having through 3 rounds of recruiting over the past three years, I don't think the ghosting is intentional from most companies. I would say 60% of companies give a "not continuing" response after 1-2 months from application, while ~25% seem like they have a configuration/software mistake that causes it to send the rejection 6 months - a year later, which people in the meantime think was just ghosting.…

I think there's something wrong with a hiring process where it takes 1-2 months to decide whether to proceed to next step (screening call, or interview, or offer) with a candidate, not to mention the fact that a well qualified candidate isn't going to be waiting around that long - they'll be applying to other jobs at the same time, and if good will be snapped up. The time to send the "Sorry, not continuing" email is…

I think part of it may be they're not saying no until someone else is actually hired just in case they need a fallback, so everyone else gets to wait however long it takes for the role to be filled, most likely...

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by BehindBlueEyes » Sun, Jan 12, 2025, 5:17 PM UTC

tombert wrote: post #753

resonious wrote: post #661

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I've also seen the "your feedback is wrong" pushback. Like... do they expect me to say "oh woops my bad. actually here's an offer"?

I agree with what you're saying, but it can be immensely frustrating when you're rejected for a job when the interviewer themselves is actually wrong, which has happened a few times. I've been given technical questions in interviews, and I answer the questions correctly (I always double-check when I get home), and the interviewer pretty much tells me that I'm wrong. For example, in an interview once I got the typical…

Not sure how the dialog went irl, but if the conversation was that adversarial and with as little diplomacy applied, I'd not hire the person nor accept the role if I was on either side of it...