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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by FactKnower69 »

Culonavirus wrote: post #656
deegles wrote: post #642

The big question is if OpenAI will achieve "general" AI before their investors get fed up. I wonder if they used the success of ChatGPT to imply that they have a path to it. I don't see how else they achieved such a high valuation.

Spoiler alert: They will not. Anyone claiming they're anywhere near something even remotely resembling AGI is simply lying. What happened to "we're a couple years away from AGI"? Where's the Scaaaaaaryyyyyyy self aware techno god GPT-5? It's all BS to BS investors with. All of the rumored new models that were supposed to be out by now are nowhere to be seen because internally the improvement rate has cratered.

If anything LLMs have delayed AGI by a decade by rerouting massive amounts of funding and attention away from promising areas and into stochastic parrots

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by kranke155 »

KTibow wrote: post #587
Someone1234 wrote: post #496

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

In my experience OpenAI models perform worse on long contexts than Anthropic/Google's, even when using the cheaper ones.

Claude is clearly the superior product id say.

The only reason I open Chat now is because Claude will refuse to answer questions on a variety of topics including for example medication side effects.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by xpe »

fragmede wrote: post #772
ganzuul wrote: post #770

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are people like that. We don't know what's up with them.

It's pretty easy to explain. You see, they're unable to produce a response that isn't in their training data. They're stochastic parrots.

Please clarify what you mean. On what basis do you say this?

Unless I’m misunderstanding, I disagree. If you reply, I’ll bet I can convince you.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by FactKnower69 »

inerte wrote: post #97

Not a lot of companies when announcing its most expensive product have the bravery to give 10 of them to help cure cancer. Well played OpenAI. Fully expect Apple now to give Peter Attia an iPhone 17 Pro so humanity can live forever.

little did we know that all it would take to cure cancer was $2000 in store credit to Google But Sometimes It Lies (Professional™ Edition)

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by Havoc »

>$200 monthly plan

I've switched to using a selfhosted interface and APIs.

The effective cost per token on monthly plans is frankly absurd.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by nom »

trod1234 wrote: post #852
freediver wrote: post #722

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say this differently. There exists no future where OpenAI both sells models through API and has its own consumer product. They will have to pick one of these things to bet the company on.

There is no real future in AI long term. Its use caustically destroys more than it creates. It is worthy successor of Pandora's box.

AI can be used for financial gain, to influence and lie to people, to simulate human connection, to generate infinite content for consumption,... at scale.

It won't go anywhere until _we_ change.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by turing_complete »

kilroy123 wrote: post #14

I do wonder what effect this will have on furthering the divide between the "rich West" and the rest of the world. If everyone in the West has powerful AI and Agents to automate everything. Simply because we can afford it, but the rest of the world doesn't have access to it. What will that mean for everyone left behind?

Richer people always get products first, when they are still expensive and bad. Don't worry about too much.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #429

Tangent. Does any body have good tips for working in a company that is totally bought in on all this stuff, such that the codebase is a complete wreck? I am in a very small team, and I am just a worker, not a manager or anything. It has become increasingly clear that most if not all my coworkers rely on all this stuff so much. Spending hours trying to give benefit of the doubt to huge amounts of inherited code, reali…

Found it better to not fight it, you can't really turn back the clock with people who have embraced it or become enamored by it. Part of the issue I've noticed with it is it enables people who couldn't do a thing at all to do the most basic version of a thing, e.g a CEO can now make a button appear on the app and maybe it'll kinda work, they then assume this magic experience to them is applicable across the rest of coding where if you actually know how to code making the button appear isn't the thing that's difficult, it's the harder work that the AI can't really solve.

But really you're never going to convince these people so I'd say if you're really passionate about coding find a workplace with similar minded people, if you really want to stay in this job then embrace it, stop caring if the codebase is good or maintainable and just let the slop flow. It's the path of least resistance and stress, trying to fight it and convince people is a losing and frustrating battle, take your passion for your work and invest it in a project outside work or find a workplace where they appreciate it too.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by EagnaIonat »

fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

> the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up)

I believe we are already there at least for the average person.

Using Ollama I can run different LLMs locally that are good enough for what I want to do. That's on a 32GB M1 laptop. No more having to pay someone to get results.

For development Pycharm Pro latest LLM autocomplete is just short of writing everything for me.

I agree with you in relation to the enterprise.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by mhh__ »

kilroy123 wrote: post #14

I do wonder what effect this will have on furthering the divide between the "rich West" and the rest of the world. If everyone in the West has powerful AI and Agents to automate everything. Simply because we can afford it, but the rest of the world doesn't have access to it. What will that mean for everyone left behind?

I actually suspect the opposite. If you get access to or steal a large LLM you can potentially massively leverage the talent pool you have as a small country.
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