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Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by NibblesMeKibble »

lurking_swe wrote: post #849
baby wrote: post #757

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Yeah I agree, I never understood the appeal of photography, it's so easy, you don't need to paint for hours to produce something original, you just need to buy a camera and click on a button. That's it. And people pay for that, I don't get it.

is it easy? i’m not a photographer but i enjoy taking pictures as a hobby. Your opinion baffles me haha. People always wonder why their iphone can’t shoot photos that look as good as the iphone camera reviews. https://www.austinmann.com/trek/iphone-16-pro-camera-review-... Understanding why your camera performs well in certain conditions and how to tweak the camera, is a mini-science all of its own. Also i think the…

> Knowing where to choose the right words, and at what moment, can make video gen turn out magical. The AI is processing millions of tokens a second, but a prompter often finds just ONE perfect prompt to capture some scenes. Some people appreciate the “art” in that. :)

I do. It can take hours to make the vision in your head be replicated by the AI. Sure you can spit out generic scenes, but the game changes when the goal is expressing a specific vision with the prompt; choosing the right synonyms, phrasing, etc to make it spit out the closest image.

Do I think I'm an artist for that? Not particularly. I like to think of myself as a prompt engineer, a completely different skill for sure, after all I do think overly logical and practical in life in general so it meshes well with my skills plus my artistic background.

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Post by Aeolun »

Why are there so many websites that are essentially static HTML that make my phone stutter?

The video’s look cool, but I can’t really enjoy reading about them if my phone freezes every 2 seconds.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by fallous »

amelius wrote: post #879
jeltz wrote: post #861

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I personally expect a decrease in quality. Without limits people tend to get less creative. Sure, there is some balance here in that tools also enable new things to be done which are not possible without tools but working around limits has often inspired some of the most creative works.

I don't think that is necessarily true. Right now movies are so expensive that they can be created only by a few handfuls of people. But those people might not be the most creative people around. If thousands of people can create movies, we might find out that some people we didn't know of are far more creative. Also "creation by committee" isn't a thing when somebody can produce a movie in their basement. Anyway, I…

So expensive? It has never been cheaper to create movies thanks to digital cameras and non-linear editors, digital audio workstations, etc. You are no longer encumbered by the costs of film, development, renting an edit bay, requiring an audio editing studio to mix audio and maintain a tape library of special effects or hire foley artists, no need for an optical printer to layer visual effects, etc.

You already can produce a movie in your basement, many of which can be found on YouTube.

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Post by Aeolun »

boogieknite wrote: post #323
heurist wrote: post #273

I've been saying for years that generated content is an impending tsunami that's going to drown out all real human voices online. The internet may become effectively unusable as a result for anything other than entertainment.

This is interesting and i see some of this now. Even here on HN and other forums i thought were mostly "human". Even one of my group chats i can tell one of my friends is using ai responses, but one of the other members cant tell and replies earnestly. I am grossed out by this. my instinct is to avoid ai slop. The interesting part to me is: What next? Where do we go? Will it be that "human" forums are pushed further…

Humans will start to notice this shit. I used openai to help me edit my stories originally, but then when I started reading other stories it quickly became evident to me that people just generated them entirely with AI.

ChatGPT is way too happy to overuse the word cacophony.

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Post by runeks »

Aeolun wrote: post #882

Why are there so many websites that are essentially static HTML that make my phone stutter? The video’s look cool, but I can’t really enjoy reading about them if my phone freezes every 2 seconds.

Which browser?

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Post by _heimdall »

Aeolun wrote: post #882

Why are there so many websites that are essentially static HTML that make my phone stutter? The video’s look cool, but I can’t really enjoy reading about them if my phone freezes every 2 seconds.

I'm seeing weird bank on a Pixel 6a / chromium browser as well. I'm on mobile so I can't check the source, but this can't just be static HTML.

When I scroll the page, sections of text are missing then pop in, randomly though not as a scroll driven animation. It almost feels like something is blocking the browser's render loop and it can't catch up to actually paint the text. That'd be an insane bug on such a simple page, though I put nothing past react these days if they used it here.

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Post by cedws »

heurist wrote: post #273

I've been saying for years that generated content is an impending tsunami that's going to drown out all real human voices online. The internet may become effectively unusable as a result for anything other than entertainment.

The Internet used to be a sort of hideaway for nerdy people to hang out and have fun. Ever since the invention of the smartphone, possibly before (see “Eternal September”) it’s gone to shit. These days I would rather spend time offline.

Are there any other Internet-based hideaways to retreat to? Somewhere where ads, clout chasing, and AI slop doesn’t exist?

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Post by mikehollinger »

lopis wrote: post #52
TrackerFF wrote: post #6

All the vids have that instantly recognizable GenAI "sheen", for the lack of a better word. Also, I think the most obvious giveaway are all the micro-variations that happen along the edges, which give a fuzzy artifact.

I assure you that's not enough. These are high quality videos. Once they get uploaded to social media, compression mostly makes imperfections go away. And it's been shown that when people are not expecting AI content, they are much less likely to realize they are looking at AI. I would 100% believe most of these videos were real if caught off guard.

> compression mostly makes imperfections go away

The ultimate compression is to reduce the video clip to a latent space vector representation to be rendered on device. :)

Just give us a few more revs of Moore’s law for that to be reasonable.

edit: found a patent… https://patents.google.com/patent/US11388416B2/en

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by nl »

heurist wrote: post #273

I've been saying for years that generated content is an impending tsunami that's going to drown out all real human voices online. The internet may become effectively unusable as a result for anything other than entertainment.

Why should I care?

Have you seen what most humans say? If an AI says more intelligent things I'm all for it.

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