Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

about.fb.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

881–890 of 1001 posts

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#881

Post by hinkley »

stiray wrote: post #826
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

Trust Is Built in Drops and Lost in Buckets Negativity? Yes Facebook was negative for 20ish years and as a result of their behavior technical people don't like them. This is not something, we are wrong about even if your "negativity here" silently suggests that. You reminded me of something, please read this article: https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/leave_my_br... It is helpful for becoming negative t…

In American history books we just call it Zyklon B.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#882

Post by autoexec »

leohonexus wrote: post #779
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

Agreed. I was commenting [1] on how this could be one of the posts where HN is totally wrong about looking back 10 years from now, similar to the Dropbox post. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41656380

To be fair, that post wasn't wrong. To this day I still carry a USB thumb drive, most people I know have/use them, and they're still selling very well. Linux users are still fully capable of moving files around themselves.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#883

Post by hinkley »

zer0zzz wrote: post #874
stiray wrote: post #826

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trust Is Built in Drops and Lost in Buckets Negativity? Yes Facebook was negative for 20ish years and as a result of their behavior technical people don't like them. This is not something, we are wrong about even if your "negativity here" silently suggests that. You reminded me of something, please read this article: https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/leave_my_br... It is helpful for becoming negative t…

Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

The tech company that got Donald Trump elected, and helped make all of our grandparents into lunatics?

That Facebook?

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#884

Post by hinkley »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #293

I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

If it’s Facebook for sure. I’m still waiting to see if Microsoft has actually changed or is just doing a very long PR stunt. A lot of Balmer execs are still there. Putting a new head on the fish doesn’t necessarily prevent the rot.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#885

Post by [deleted] »

s0ss wrote: post #822
radlad wrote: post #814

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We already greatly distrust f*n mobiles which eavesdrop on everyone's conversation Yet every single person carries one.

Often out of necessity. I fantasize about disconnecting, but the reality is more complicated; it would difficult for me and others around me were I to disconnect.

[deleted]

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#886

Post by stiray »

zer0zzz wrote: post #874
stiray wrote: post #826

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trust Is Built in Drops and Lost in Buckets Negativity? Yes Facebook was negative for 20ish years and as a result of their behavior technical people don't like them. This is not something, we are wrong about even if your "negativity here" silently suggests that. You reminded me of something, please read this article: https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/leave_my_br... It is helpful for becoming negative t…

Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

Not only my point stands, I still remember a world almost without narcissists, people traveling for fun, not to take a photo to brag, times where people listened to doctors not some people recommending horse dewormer, UK not suffering due to Brexit consequences ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8425058/ ), people actually bonding in person,...

Or in words of Umberto Eco ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco ):

“Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

You are underestimating the horror that Facebook did to human society. I am accusing them of crime against humanity. And all that, just for selling ads - where you will be able to see the comparison with IG Farben, do whatever it takes, to earn money.

I accept the argument, that if they wouldn't, someone else would, but nevertheless THEY did it or we would be talking about someone else.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#887

Post by hinkley »

sharkweek wrote: post #392
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #293

I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

Nick Clegg (public affairs guy at FB) is currently lobbying to get VR headsets on schoolchildren. I can't think of anything I want less than my kids wearing those things while in class all day. https://nickclegg.medium.com/how-the-metaverse-can-transform...

VR headsets are barely adult sized! Putting them on little necks is barbaric.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#888

Post by hinkley »

dools wrote: post #589

I just can't imagine ever buying something like this from Facebook. I know everyone shits on about Google being bad and whatnot, but the things I buy from Google aren't really part of their advertising business. I pay for Workspace and Google Cloud Platform, and those things don't advertise at me. I am more likely to cruise around already logged into Google as a result of using those things, which obviously plays int…

My first thought was, “does Meta have a user base anymore that would be interested in this?” Who is their early adopter demographic?

Someday old people will use VR for escape but only when they are the late adopters. Zuckerberg has lost his damn mind. But don’t tell him that, I want the full Willie Wonka experience.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#889

Post by hinkley »

isolli wrote: post #792

It's of course a matter of taste, but I don't think I will ever want to put such glasses between me and the world around me. It feels unnecessary, distracting, cumbersome, and slightly headache-inducing. I made a bet 10 years ago with a friend that VR headsets would never gain wide adoption among the general public (back when Facebook bought Oculus), and I think it's fair to say I've won this bet. With these glasses,…

I’d rather wear 5th or 6th gen glasses than 2nd or 3rd gen cybernetics implants when those come. I’m going to be very late to that game, because getting hacked could have pretty dire consequences. You can just take the glasses off.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#890

Post by RealityVoid »

stiray wrote: post #886
zer0zzz wrote: post #874

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

Not only my point stands, I still remember a world almost without narcissists, people traveling for fun, not to take a photo to brag, times where people listened to doctors not some people recommending horse dewormer, UK not suffering due to Brexit consequences ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8425058/ ), people actually bonding in person,... Or in words of Umberto Eco ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco ): “So…

At most, it just laid bare to see what were the normal social interactions and thoughts of millions of people and made possible far more viral spread of ideas. On the last one, I don't even think it's social media's fault, it's probably the whole internet at large, it's just these sorts of interactions happen most there.
Post reply on HN