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Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by Y_Y »

b112 wrote: post #862
achow wrote: post #835

Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount (3 gm) of explosives inside 5,000 pagers made by Gold Apollo (a Taiwanese company). "The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code." 3,000 of the pagers exploded when a coded message was sent to them. Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that had t…

You know, as this is a tech forum, I'll reply via a tech business, re: branding angle. Yes Gold Apollo, they were yours. That's because you licensed your name, and your name is your business. (EG your mark(name) of trade) I've seen this in everything from hotels to frying pans. License that name! We made 1% more this quarter. Yeehaw! Holiday in has corporate owned hotels, franchised hotels, and of course licensed hot…

TIL Canadians call Tefal t-fal

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Post by figassis »

dotancohen wrote: post #858
achow wrote: post #835

Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount (3 gm) of explosives inside 5,000 pagers made by Gold Apollo (a Taiwanese company). "The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code." 3,000 of the pagers exploded when a coded message was sent to them. Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that had t…

Thank you. Where do you have this information from?

Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-exp...

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by figassis »

Gold Apollo, the company whose brand was on the devices says they did not manufacture them, they only licensed their brand to BAC, a Hungarian company. Well, I'm sure income from licensing fees in their accounting books say differently. You profit from it, you should pay for it. Any other way to see this will allow this type of vulnerability to spread and the buck will stop nowhere.

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Post by npteljes »

anonu wrote: post #638
581786 wrote: post #112

This being a hack is improbable in my opinion. If you see the pictures of the aftermath, the damage is too big to be the result of a lithium battery explosion. Moreover the devices exploded at the same time in different locations (won’t happen if they made the battery overheat till explosion) HA probably bought a bad batch with implanted explosives and they set it off now.

> This being a hack is improbable Your definition of hack differs from mine. This is hack in every sense of the word: supply chain hack, signals hack, and more...

The context clearly explains what OP means. The meaning is that "This is not something that is achieved via simply hacking a normal device remotely. This is something that is achieved via doing something extra to the device first, and maybe then hacking it remotely."

Another thing is that if we begin to use "hack" for every means of attack and unauthorized access, then the word loses its meaning. There is no supply chain hack, but there is a supply chain attack.

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Post by ericjmorey »

b112 wrote: post #862
achow wrote: post #835

Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount (3 gm) of explosives inside 5,000 pagers made by Gold Apollo (a Taiwanese company). "The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code." 3,000 of the pagers exploded when a coded message was sent to them. Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that had t…

You know, as this is a tech forum, I'll reply via a tech business, re: branding angle. Yes Gold Apollo, they were yours. That's because you licensed your name, and your name is your business. (EG your mark(name) of trade) I've seen this in everything from hotels to frying pans. License that name! We made 1% more this quarter. Yeehaw! Holiday in has corporate owned hotels, franchised hotels, and of course licensed hot…

More concisely, why should anyone who, due to these explosions, does not trust devices branded as Gold Apollo care about a distinction between a product using a licensed trademark vs a product that has been contracted out for production of products using the brand name they own?

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Post by agapon »

barbazoo wrote: post #354
einszwei wrote: post #196

From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move, but I can't help but wonder about its long-term consequences. Although it was aimed at harming Israel's adversaries, third-party countries may now hesitate to involve Israel in their supply chains. There's also the risk that other major producers could replicate this tactic, potentially leading to further escalation in the region or be…

> From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move From The Guardian [1]: > Eight killed and 2,750 wounded Was that a clever move if you're killing "only" 8 potential adversaries? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/17/middle-ea...

The point was probably to reduce accidental casualties. Also, the wounds can be quite severe. Finally, a device like a pager cannot hold a lot of explosive substance in its spare space anyway.

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Post by alecco »

negativeonehalf wrote: post #871

It's surprising that Mossad arranged a massive destruction of communication technology without it being the precursor to a major military operation. Very curious why they chose this moment to execute an operation they clearly had ready to go for months.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-09-18/ty-article-li...

"use it or lose it" moment, allegedly.

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