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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Are those people then reselling the contents of the books?

How is that relevant? Is OpenAI reselling the contests of books? If so, this is the first I have heard of it.

Yes. You can (could?) paste the “article preview” into GPT-4 and get full articles for free, basically pirating a NYT subscription. Here are “one hundred examples of GPT-4 memorizing content from the New York Times”:

https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2023/12/Lawsuit-Document-dk...

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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> The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. He lies and steals much more than that. He’s the scammer behind Worldcoin. https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi... https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-... > Altman is, and wants to be, a large part of AI regulation. Quite the public contradiction. That’s as…

> That’s as much of a contradiction as a thief wanting to be a large part of lock regulation. Based on what I see in the videos from The Lockpocking Lawyer, that would be a massive improvement . Now, the NSA and crypto standards, that would have worked as a metaphor for your point. (I don't think it's correct, but that's an independent claim, and I am not only willing to discover that I'm wrong about their sincerity,…

> Based on what I see in the videos from The Lockpocking Lawyer

The Lockpicking Lawyer is not a thief, so I don’t get your desire to incorrectly nitpick. Especially when you clearly understood the point.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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How is that relevant? Is OpenAI reselling the contests of books? If so, this is the first I have heard of it.

Yes. You can (could?) paste the “article preview” into GPT-4 and get full articles for free, basically pirating a NYT subscription. Here are “one hundred examples of GPT-4 memorizing content from the New York Times”: https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2023/12/Lawsuit-Document-dk...

Thanks for sharing, that is indeed quite a compelling case, and I did not expect it to be regurgitating verbatim text to this extent. It would be interesting to see how OpenAI addresses this.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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> The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. He lies and steals much more than that. He’s the scammer behind Worldcoin. https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi... https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-... > Altman is, and wants to be, a large part of AI regulation. Quite the public contradiction. That’s as…

> That’s as much of a contradiction as a thief wanting to be a large part of lock regulation. Based on what I see in the videos from The Lockpocking Lawyer, that would be a massive improvement . Now, the NSA and crypto standards, that would have worked as a metaphor for your point. (I don't think it's correct, but that's an independent claim, and I am not only willing to discover that I'm wrong about their sincerity,…

> > That’s as much of a contradiction as a thief wanting to be a large part of lock regulation.

> Based on what I see in the videos from The Lockpocking Lawyer, that would be a massive improvement.

A thief is not a lock picker and they don't have the same incentive. A thief in a position to dictate lock regulation would try to have a legal backdoor on every lock in the world. One that only he has the master key for. Something something NSA & cryptography :)

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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This is so pointless and petty too. Like "hee hee our software is just like the movies". And continuing the trend of tech moguls watching bleak satire and thinking it's aspirational.

How do people watch 15 seconds of a demo like this - https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1790072174117613963 And not see how over the top it is... cmon.

I couldn’t take more than 10s of that. It’s so cringey and for some reason trying to be sexy? Like why would I want a bot to flirt with me while I’m trying to get information?

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Scar Jo thought it sounded like herself, and so did people who knew her personally. That is what matters. OWNERSHIP over her contributions to the world.

She doesn't own most (all probably) of her contributions to the world. If the voice was only trained on the voice of the character she played in Her, would she have any standing in claiming some kind of infringement?

IANAL, but – I think it's most likely to be an infringement on her right of publicity (i.e. the right to control the commercial value of your name, likeness, etc.)

She doesn't have to own anything to claim this right, if the value of her voice is recognizable.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

Could they have made it look less like Midler vs Ford? "Midler was asked to sing a famous song of hers for the commercial and refused. Subsequently, the company hired a voice-impersonator of Midler and carried on with using the song for the commercial, since it had been approved by the copyright-holder. Midler's image and likeness were not used in the commercial but many claimed the voice used sounded impeccably like…

What was the result of that? Did Ford or Midler end up winning?

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Emotional intelligence /true empathy cannot be learned or acquired, at least IMHO. But it can be learned to be mimicked almost to perfection, either by endless trial & error or by highly intelligent motivated people. It usually breaks apart when completely new intense / stressful situation happens. Sociopaths belong here very firmly and form majority. If you know what to look for, you will see it in most if not all p…

In the case of Peterson, I'd say it takes one to know one.

On the contrary, sociopaths are not emotional or political. They manipulate, while Peterson fights. We might disagree with him, but I'm 100% sure he is an honest human being.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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> That’s as much of a contradiction as a thief wanting to be a large part of lock regulation. Based on what I see in the videos from The Lockpocking Lawyer, that would be a massive improvement . Now, the NSA and crypto standards, that would have worked as a metaphor for your point. (I don't think it's correct, but that's an independent claim, and I am not only willing to discover that I'm wrong about their sincerity,…

> Based on what I see in the videos from The Lockpocking Lawyer The Lockpicking Lawyer is not a thief, so I don’t get your desire to incorrectly nitpick. Especially when you clearly understood the point.

You noticed your confusion but still went on the aggressive, huh. Ah well.

"A is demonstrating a proof of B" does not require "A is a clause in B".

A being TLPL, B being that the entire lock industry is bad, so bad that anyone with experience would be a massive improvement, for example a thief.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Out of curiosity, how can this be enforced?

I assume that they didn't get Scarlett's voice directly but they hired someone who sounds similar to use it for the system.

Is it illegal to hire similar sounding voice actor?

If I, for example, sound very similar to Stephen Fry, would I not be allowed to record audio books because he _owns_ his voice and any similar voice?

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