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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by runako »

rvnx wrote: post #410
SeanAnderson wrote: post #340

Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still. Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... ) I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. I…

Not just Europe: also no Canada, China, Russia, United Kingdom, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Norway, Iceland, etc.

This looks like a list of countries that:

- have digital partnerships with the EU where the DMA or very similar regulation is/may be in effect or soon to take effect (e.g. Canada, Switzerland).

- countries where US companies are limited in providing advanced AI tech (China)

- countries where US companies are barred from trading, or where trade is extremely limited (Russia). Also note the absence of Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, North Korea, etc.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by fractalb »

runako wrote: post #880
AlchemistCamp wrote: post #867

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 It's available in 174 countries. Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. That's a fair choice, but don't blame Google for spending some extra time on compliance before launching there.

> It's available in 174 countries. Basically the entire world, except countries that specifically targeted American Big Tech companies for increased regulation. > Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. This is such an understated point. I wonder if EU citizens feel well-served by e.g. the pop-up banners that afflict the global web as a re…

There is no hope to redeem the Web of these banners :(

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by roboben »

runako wrote: post #880
AlchemistCamp wrote: post #867

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 It's available in 174 countries. Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. That's a fair choice, but don't blame Google for spending some extra time on compliance before launching there.

> It's available in 174 countries. Basically the entire world, except countries that specifically targeted American Big Tech companies for increased regulation. > Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. This is such an understated point. I wonder if EU citizens feel well-served by e.g. the pop-up banners that afflict the global web as a re…

Simple solution: Do not use cookies which are not strictly necessary and you don’t need a banner.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by arvinsim »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #594
milesward wrote: post #136

This demo is nuts: https://youtu.be/UIZAiXYceBI?si=8ELqSinKHdlGlNpX

I'm legitimately starting to wonder what white collar workers will even do in 5-10 years. This just Year 1 of this stuff going mainstream. Careers are 25-30 years long. What will someone entering the workforce today even be doing in 2035?

Work will just move to a higher level of abstraction.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by speedyStuff_ »

lixy wrote: post #839
idealboy wrote: post #801

I had an interesting interaction: Me: Are you using Gemini? Bard: LOL. Got that wrong earlier today. Bard is on Gemini Pro in English across most of the world as of Dec 6, 2023. When I asked it about the statement it said: Bard: I apologize for the confusion. The "lol I made this mistake earlier" statement was not intended for you, but rather a reflection on a previous mistake I made during my training process. It wa…

Hmm... Earlier today I asked "Are you Gemini pro?" And it answered word-for-word the same way. Is this a hard-coded or heavily prompt-coached answer? It's suspicious when an AI answers 100% the same.

Huh, same here, that “LOL” response was the exact same thing for me. Pretty weird.

When I expressed my surprise about its casual response, it switched back to the usual formal tone and apologized.

Not sure what to make of this as I don’t consider myself to be in the know when it comes to ML, but could this be training data leakage? Then again, that “LOL” sentence would be such a weird training data.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by t_mann »

runako wrote: post #880
AlchemistCamp wrote: post #867

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 It's available in 174 countries. Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. That's a fair choice, but don't blame Google for spending some extra time on compliance before launching there.

> It's available in 174 countries. Basically the entire world, except countries that specifically targeted American Big Tech companies for increased regulation. > Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. This is such an understated point. I wonder if EU citizens feel well-served by e.g. the pop-up banners that afflict the global web as a re…

I think that having the right to ask companies to tell you what personal data they're storing on you and asking them to delete it is well worth the minor annoyance of dealing with cookie banners, which are largely the result of the industry trying to discredit that regulation, btw (until they became something that can be de facto considered part of the law through adopted practice).

As regards the lesser availability of American tech, I'm sure that's much more limited in China, which coincidentally happens to have the most notable domestic AI industry outside of the US. It's something that economists can be reluctant to admit, but for which there's solid evidence by now afaik, that at least temporary import barriers, if done right, can be a boost to industrial development. The thing that is weird about the EU regulation is that they're putting the same shackles on their domestic tech industry, which is dwarfed by the giant US incumbents who have more resources to invest in compliance than startups (apart from the bits that apparently only target said encumbants that some posters have mentioned here, which I don't know anything about).

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by andrewmutz »

runako wrote: post #880
AlchemistCamp wrote: post #867

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 It's available in 174 countries. Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. That's a fair choice, but don't blame Google for spending some extra time on compliance before launching there.

> It's available in 174 countries. Basically the entire world, except countries that specifically targeted American Big Tech companies for increased regulation. > Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. This is such an understated point. I wonder if EU citizens feel well-served by e.g. the pop-up banners that afflict the global web as a re…

The banners drive me absolutely crazy. And I don't care if the authors of the law never intended the banners, policy is judged on is consequences (not it's intent).

Is it possible for the law to be amended so that non-EU citizens can use a browser flag that just says "I'm fine withe the cookies"? That way Europeans can enjoy all the cookie consent clicking and the rest of us can go back to how the web was before?

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by makeitdouble »

runako wrote: post #880
AlchemistCamp wrote: post #867

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 It's available in 174 countries. Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. That's a fair choice, but don't blame Google for spending some extra time on compliance before launching there.

> It's available in 174 countries. Basically the entire world, except countries that specifically targeted American Big Tech companies for increased regulation. > Europe has gone to great lengths to make itself an incredibly hostile environment for online businesses to operate in. This is such an understated point. I wonder if EU citizens feel well-served by e.g. the pop-up banners that afflict the global web as a re…

As a former EU citizen, yes it was great. Most of the dirty tricks pulled when you register or buy something online were off by default, and even if I somewhat got ropped in some stinky mailing list a litteral single click would get me out of it. Even killing your account could be done in one legally binding email. No 50 pages "do you really want to quit ?" and no "Do you not not not not not refuse to to not let us delete your account ?" last question.

Now I'm feeling how bad it is on the other side of the fence, and the funny thing is people don't seem to give a shit because they never experienced decent regulation and being fucked by brands is just the way of life.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by revskill »

Hijacking the back button to intercept hash route is annoying, basically it's impossible to go back to previous page.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by stefandesu »

zamalek wrote: post #760
johnfn wrote: post #444

Very impressive! I noticed two really notable things right off the bat: 1. I asked it a question about a feature that TypeScript doesn't have[1]. GPT4 usually does not recognize that it's impossible (I've tried asking it a bunch of times, it gets it right with like 50% probability) and hallucinates an answer. Gemini correctly says that it's impossible. The impressive thing was that it then linked to the open GitHub i…

The biggest advantage of Bard is the speed, it's practically instant. I asked: How would I go about creating a sandbox directory for a subordinate user (namespaced user with subuid - e.g. uid 100000), that can be deleted as the superior user (e.g. uid 1000)? I want this to be done without root permissions. Both said that it's impossible, which is the the generally accepted answer. I then added: I don't care about dat…

> How would I go about creating a sandbox directory for a subordinate user (namespaced user with subuid - e.g. uid 100000), that can be deleted as the superior user (e.g. uid 1000)? I want this to be done without root permissions.

Off topic, but it feels so weird that this is not possible. I've run into this with rootless Docker recently.

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