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Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

I fail to understand your point. What kind of feature do you to be excited to see in a product that is 16 years old? Do you think the and thing when you buy a new dishwasher, a couch, a chair? That it’s mediocre? Smartphones are not the future anymore, there’s people starting university soon that always had one, and never lived in a world without the iPhone. Also, besides arguably the first few iPhones, Apple never d…

Do you think the and thing when you buy a new dishwasher, a couch, a chair? That it’s mediocre?

Those are things that you replace every 5 to 10 years. People do see innovation with those products because they only look at new ones occasionally.

If people have the same expectations of their iPhone, and they get off the upgrade treadmill of a new phone every 2 years and start buying every 5 years that would mean Apple's iPhone sales would drop by roughly a half among the core group who buy every new model. That would have a very significant impact on their share price.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

#882

If the iPhone or iPhone Pro could be connected to a USB-C dock with a keyboard, mouse and external monitor (or two) and display full fat MacOS; It would be the most impressive mobile device ever created. I could imagine companies issuing iPhones with MDM and corporate credentials preconfigured. As a developer, that would be a pretty cool workflow. I already ssh into a remote box to get faster development performance…

That's what we always hear, and it just never happens. For developers that cost the company upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, it just doesn't matter whether you issue them a $1,000 iPhone and a $2,000 PC, or a top-of-the-line $2,000 phone.

We already have thin client solutions, and virtual machines, and remote development and, and, and...

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

#884

Apple, I don’t want a giant phone that I have to carry in my hands. Make another mini version that costs less than $2k and you can have my money. I already have an iPad or several laptops that I can do “big” things on.

It's harder to make a smaller phone, and they in smaller numbers (no economy of scale), so they need to cost more than bigger phones. But people don't want to pay more for "less", they think a smaller phone should be cheaper. So a small phone will never succeed in the market.

Apple once tried to work around this with the iPad mini by simply not offering that model with the lowest storage, so you HAD to pay their "storage upgrade tax" if you wanted a mini at all.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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post #836

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

I’m not GP but I would personally love for the smart watch to replace the smartphone so that I don’t have to carry one around. I know that’s sort of possible in some places, but it isn’t where I live as many of the Apps necessary to interact with society require a smartphone. I’n sure the blame for this belongs more on the app makers than the device manufacturers, but I think it’s still an answer to what your asking.

The problem is: how well can you interact with a phone the size of a watch? I mean, for some things, yeah, it works fine. But other things? There's a reason why phones have been getting larger (no iPhone Minis anymore). Even Android side, expect Google to always assume there's a companion phone available, because the interface for adding in info will continue to be terrible, simply due to form factor constraints.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

#886

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

Your recollection of the past might be skewed. Approximately 10 years ago we also celebrated cables - the switch from the 30 pin cable to lightning. Stuff like that has always been there and celebrated, but it fades in memory over time.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

#887

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

I fail to understand your point. What kind of feature do you to be excited to see in a product that is 16 years old? Do you think the and thing when you buy a new dishwasher, a couch, a chair? That it’s mediocre? Smartphones are not the future anymore, there’s people starting university soon that always had one, and never lived in a world without the iPhone. Also, besides arguably the first few iPhones, Apple never d…

> What kind of feature do you to be excited to see in a product that is 16 years old?

A battery that lasts longer than a day.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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post #786

> A huge leap forward for iPhone Marginal improvement presented as huge leap forward. If only words had to mean something > with a gorgeous new design featuring a durable, color-infused back glass Didn't the iPhone 2 have a back glass? What's durable about a back glass, aluminium doesn't break.

Do people still break their phone screens? I have never used a case even the naughts. My 3gs, 4, few Android phones, 5s were all cracked. But nothing since ~2016 has cracked at all. I haven't stopped dropping my phone or anything. They just don't break anymore.

Even using a case and a screen protector I cracked the glass on my 11 Pro Max. Sometimes you're just unlucky. The only other phones I've cracked the screen on was a iPhone 5S (no case) and a Nokia N73. And I'm super clumsy.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

#889
This whole Apple presentation could be an email. Really there is nothing worthwhile showing, which is OK by the way. However making it a full blown 1h video felt weird for Apple.

Literally best feature they released is USB-C which they only did because of EU regulations to begin with.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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post #786

> A huge leap forward for iPhone Marginal improvement presented as huge leap forward. If only words had to mean something > with a gorgeous new design featuring a durable, color-infused back glass Didn't the iPhone 2 have a back glass? What's durable about a back glass, aluminium doesn't break.

Do people still break their phone screens? I have never used a case even the naughts. My 3gs, 4, few Android phones, 5s were all cracked. But nothing since ~2016 has cracked at all. I haven't stopped dropping my phone or anything. They just don't break anymore.

I use a case because glass is just impossibly slippery. Breaking the screen is not the worst thing that can happen when dropping a phone. You could also drop it on someone's head or lose the phone by dropping it in the water (or some other inaccessible place) or because it slips out of pockets and bags so easily.

I like my phones to feel rubbery. It makes them far easier to use with one hand as well.

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