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Post by afavour »

ymolodtsov wrote: post #601
afavour wrote: post #234

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

> I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great Well, Elon definitely doesn't. > the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data They're using the most popular social network which they happen to own, which already has pre-built social connections for most people who might want to try…

> They're using the most popular social network which they happen to own, which already has pre-built social connections for most people who might want to try Threads

For sure. And I’m not writing off Threads being a popular app, just the notion that it’ll displace Twitter. To me Twitter is in a different social space than Instagram: the town square rather than the pub with my friends. Even if I move all my pub friends to sit in the town square it won’t be the same thing.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by tbolt »

Cwizard wrote: post #591

I think it is surprising they went with the Instagram branding. Instagram has a better brand reputation than Facebook but I would also say that the brand image is still more for young and fun content, less serious things. Which I would think appeals more to younger people 20-35yo. While what makes twitter great is that it is a more serious platform where you can get the ‘insight’ of professionals (journalists, politi…

Meta?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by dawnerd »

hrisng wrote: post #691
luckystarr wrote: post #524

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People on the Fediverse expected it very much. Meta already was trying to talk to the larger instances "off the record"[1]. Fediverse users are already planning to boycott any instance which federates with Meta to block any Embrace, Extend and Extinguish moves. [1] https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836 edit: More info here: https://wedistribute.org/2023/06/fedipact-blocking-meta/

Why? I would love for the general public to be able to connect to Fediverse. I don't love Meta per se, but let be real here, the majority of people are not gonna sign up for random instances that run by someone they don' know, to interact with a very small and niche subset of people, with a risk of it being shut down by that said person due to whatever personal circumstances they may have. It's the biggest obstacles…

I’m with you here and really it’s just a minority of fedi instances that are going to defederate and that’s fine. I look forward to hopefully being able to follow creators once again without needing to use bots

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by data-ottawa »

photonerd wrote: post #256
adventured wrote: post #146

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> But hooooly crap does it underscore how much of a catastrophe Musk’s actions are I think that pretty much nails it. This is Zuckerberg's life - social media & nearby segments - and he's still in his prime (very active, attentive to threats / paranoid) as a competitor in the business sphere. If you give him an opening to cripple Twitter opportunistically, he's going to take a shot. Did Musk think Twitter actually ha…

> Did Musk think Twitter actually had a moat It kind of did, just by network effects, but he’s spent the last 6+ months systematically filling it in. This last weekend might be the walls crumbling down

Twitter was great because you could broadcast and get picked up by news orgs and viewed by everyone for years. And it didn’t need a CRM or IT staff to deal with, just someone with a phone.

Now that that’s over it can’t meet the needs of services like my local power company pushing updates.

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Post by gfodor »

ehnto wrote: post #554
gfodor wrote: post #186

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Twitter is the idea app, Instagram is the thirst trap app. It's not going to work.

Well that is a little naive, Twitter is full of porn. It is probably one of it's largest userbases. It's not a particularly wholesome platform even on the "ideas" front. It's just as bad as any other mainstream internet platform.

Accusing someone of being naive is rude when it could be that you just missed the point.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by agys »

rayxi271828 wrote: post #153
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I hope Threads won't exhibit the same hostility towards the users as IG does. (What's up with IG and its hostile UX? Videos can't be fast forwarded or tracked at all, profile pictures can't be zoomed, clicking on it brings you to stories, images can't be copied easily, etc.)

The UI to post a story is so inconsistent/illogic that it’s difficult to understand if it comes from incompetence or from some hidden scheme.

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Post by dragonwriter »

adventured wrote: post #146
photonerd wrote: post #15

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This has been known to be coming for quite a while, so it’s probably just opportune timing on their part being close enough to ready to ship. But hooooly crap does it underscore how much of a catastrophe Musk’s actions are.

> But hooooly crap does it underscore how much of a catastrophe Musk’s actions are I think that pretty much nails it. This is Zuckerberg's life - social media & nearby segments - and he's still in his prime (very active, attentive to threats / paranoid) as a competitor in the business sphere. If you give him an opening to cripple Twitter opportunistically, he's going to take a shot. Did Musk think Twitter actually ha…

> Did Musk think Twitter actually had a moat (thus he didn't have to be overly concerned with his actions promptly sinking the ship)?

I don’t think he cared [0], because he’s always wanted to gut Twitter and remake it as a a very different service that is not really in the same market (very different substantive functions and revenue model.)

On the other hand he seems to have very not-evidence-based and turns-out-to-be-wrong-at-every-step map of how to get from a ad-supported microblogging platform to a user-pays long-form-content-and-financial-services platform.

[0] It did, through network effexts, but his plans were incompatible with focussing on preserving it.

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