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Post by dbish »

boyter wrote: post #131
dbish wrote: post #113

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Mastadon UX is really frustrating. Hoping there's a better option for following him in the near future

Create your own? There are many implementations over ActivityPub, but you can create your own if you like.

haha, would love to for fun, but not a good business move as consumer network based products are hit driven/hard to cold start/etc., and already 100% dedicate to trying to get my own startup off the ground. Would be a fun project though, and I did take a first stab at a social network with a gaming clip sharing site once, but quickly realized this is a very hard space with very low probability of success when you're competing against a bunch of incumbents that have a network to work with already.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

ALittleLight wrote: post #847
fluidcruft wrote: post #768

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First, ban everyone who votes "Yes" because obvious bots are obvious and then re-issue the poll. So many birds killed with the same stone.

Why would you say that? He honored previous polls, including the one to restore the banned journalists.

Not on the first poll.

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Post by catapart »

crazygringo wrote: post #843
catapart wrote: post #656

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I'm kind of shocked that Bezos hasn't commissioned an ActivityPub/federated network (mastodon instance) that obfuscates the decentralization (for easier onboarding) and gives you some kind of "deal" for having Amazon Prime. Feels like Amazon could eat Twitter's lunch here (especially since they, allegedly, run Twitter's servers now, meaning that they could handle the traffic).

I think the reason so few are getting into the thing is that Twitter never showed the concept to be a particularly profitable business in the first place, and it couldn't seem to grow beyond a certain small size (in comparison to other networks). So why would Amazon or any other company want to invest in their own version of that?

I definitely agree that Twitter, as a proof of its concept, failed pretty spectacularly. But I also feel like that was due to a confusion of focus at the company, realized as a desire to be an ad-supported platform that championed a libertarian ideal of 'free speech'. That dissonance hurt them a lot, to my mind.

Amazon, on the other hand, has no such dissonance and has a very profitable advertising arm that could happily benefit from yet more digital real estate. Of all the players out there, Amazon already does massive hosting AND competent ad scheduling across diverse device ecosystems. It just seems like they've got all of the technical side pretty much already up and running; they just need to strap it together in a specific package and ship it.

I know - easier said than done; and who knows what other priorities they're worried about that might not cooperate with owning a "digital town square". For all I know, there's some monopoly law that they'd have to screw with, too.

But all of this is to say: they seem well-positioned, so I'm just idling musing on why they haven't capitalized on it. Your reasoning is as good as any other I've heard. /shrug

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AJ007 wrote: post #397
mvkel wrote: post #173

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

The message over the past week has been pretty clear -- the rules change without notice and will be changed based on what pisses elon off. That make Twitter now a niche message board. All of the elaborate justifications and explanations for buying Twitter and what was going on wrong over there while it was public have been thrown out the window, no matter what your point of view was. The fact that this most recent on…

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Post by 542458 »

sph wrote: post #726
jdiez17 wrote: post #547

Musk just tweeted that @paulg will be restored shortly: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046164261149327... And “Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.” https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046168636732088... Edit: and now he’s asking if he should step down https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046176439731240...

I honestly want him to stay because I enjoy the absolute shit show, I'm gonna be honest. It is interesting to see how the world would react if Twitter went in flames over a couple weeks. The news and corporate PR world are scared out of their mind, and I want to see the whole thing implode, even if for a little while. Same with the Musk cult of personality.

I work in a news-adjacent industry. As far as I can tell nobody on the news side is “scared out of their mind”. There is concern over the whole “rich guy takes over town square” aspect, a bit of concern over the “increasingly arbitrary ban policy” bit, but nothing you couldn’t easily find as top-voted comments on HN or Reddit, and nothing I’d describe in anywhere near as strong terms as what you used. Maybe some of the smaller new media reporting outlets that are more likely to catch a ban they can’t fight for saying something Elon doesn’t like feel more vulnerable, IDK.

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Post by rchaud »

bydlocoder wrote: post #580
minimaxir wrote: post #545

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Hijacking top comment to note Elon Musk has commented: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616426114932737 > Paul’s account will be restored shortly And https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616863673208832 > Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.

The company is a clown show if a CEO has to interfere with moderation policies.

Bad enough that the CEO has 3 other full-time jobs .
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