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Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Post by yucky » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 3:28 AM UTC

godelski wrote: post #880

yucky wrote: post #879

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Well there is an easy way to test this theory of yours, by answering a question. Do you think we should treat people differently based on the color of their skin? I happen to think we should treat everyone the same regardless of skin color. Do you?

I'm not taking the bait. I just want you to know that the reason you're having problems with people is because you're arrogant. Tone it down if you want to have the conversations you want to have because you're never going to get there the way you're going about it. That's the end of this conversation for me. Sorry.

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Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 4:45 AM UTC

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #621

The timing of this is interesting, on the eve of SBF testifying before Congress.

Maybe someone thought it would be nice if SBF spent xmas in a Bahamian prison.

He claims he cares about the people of the Bahamas. The fact that his father is a tax law professor and the country where they located is a tax haven is pure coincidence, of course. When he was handing out donations in his fake "effective altruism" campaign to ensure he and other crypto crooks could keep breaking the law for profit without being seriously regulated, he may have forgotten about all the people in Bahamaian prisons who also believe they need to break the law for profit. This is a great chance to bond with them during the holiday season.

The quality of the prison conditions should be commensurate with the amount of taxes paid to the Crown. It is a nice lesson in "utilitarianism".

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Post by ogogmad » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 2:40 PM UTC

jimmygrapes wrote: post #414

ogogmad wrote: post #128

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The only commonality between those 3 people is that they're Jewish. There are good and bad people from every race and gender. "Russian" in the case you're talking about is not an ethnicity, so it's a false equivalence. I recommend you pull yourself away from the Anti-Semitic Point Of No Return. That way leads to social ostracism, and for no good reason at all. [edit] As I said elsewhere, I stand corrected. I thought…

I'm shadow banned so no harm in this comment, but: I really hope you reflect on this idea of "dog whistle" considering you heard it

This is reaching you late, but you're not shadow-banned.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Post by singleshot_ » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 7:17 PM UTC

jcampbell1 wrote: post #876

singleshot_ wrote: post #836

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Out of perhaps an over abundance of curiosity, what would be your take on, say, Massachusetts Rules of Evidence Section 1104? What sorts of things do you think Massachusetts would promise a witness?

They don’t make specific promises except as a last resort because of things like 1104. I know a specific example of the feds losing a case because they granted immunity to get someone to fly to the US to testify. The witness completely blew the prosecution’s case. A federal prosecutor losing is quite the stain on their reputation. Immunity deals are the fastest way to blow a case. The witness is supposed to say they…

I think a more reasonable interpretation is “they make specific promises so frequently that there had to be a rule enacted to deal with it. I agree that you know about one case where a cooperation witness with immunity caused a problem. As to your initial claims that there is “zero chance she was offered a deal” or that any cooperation must be voluntary, we’ll have to agree to disagree.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Post by harambae » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 3:33 AM UTC

hnmullany wrote: post #780

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #728

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If the charges include manipulating the prices of TerraUSD and Luna earlier in the year - that ironically probably caused the FTX implosion, it's hard how to see Caroline Ellison as head of Alameda wasn't heavily involved in major criminal activities. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/07/business/ftx-sbf-crypto-m... Getting one of two culpable people to testify against the other and let them off the hook seems a dreadf…

You don't know her deal yet. She might still be going to prison. (If my copious Law & Order watching is anyway accurate.)

Oddly enough, the person with the most insights into SBF/Caroline and prison time is Shkreli...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ivqzyjfHG0

he walks through a lot of how the points are calculated.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Post by rtkwe » Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 4:14 AM UTC

seanhunter wrote: post #865

rtkwe wrote: post #834

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One of the major charges though is that they misdirected funds to Alameda Research or had people deposit directly to them instead which would be happening on chain. The failed arbitrage would have also required a lot of on-chain activity.

Indeed. It's emerged that there are screenshots of a signal chat group called (in what must have seemed at the time to be an amusing joke) "Wirefraud" with SBF, the CEO of Alameda (Caroline Ellison) and two of the other top folks from FTX/Alameda.[1] So one of them (probably Ellison as everyone is speculating) almost certainly turned to provide that. That's the sort of off-chain evidence that is somewhat awkward when…

Yeah I think they're absolutely hosed here. Beyond anything they did or said before the collapse SBF kept talking and to all appearance lying while trying to get people to reinvest which is a whole new set of possible crimes about misleading investors as well as basically admitting to several crimes.