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Post by Kreutzer »

stu432 wrote: post #722
jpgvm wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to break it to you but there isn't any Leftists in America. Just the Center Right (Democrats) and the straight up crazy Far Right (GOP). This is plain as day from anyone outside of America and only seems to be lost on the Americans themselves.

Defund the police, reparations, affirmative action.... Yeah totally super right wing talking points in Europe.

The democrats endorsed law enforcement funding through the midterms and helped pass funding for police through congress in September. What planet do you live on?

Also calls for reparations are a liberal agenda, not a socialist one.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by lynndotpy »

M4v3R wrote: post #577
arthurofbabylon wrote: post #335

I’m surprised by the outrage here. The proliferation of information is always subject to tampering - from news outlets picking headlines to social feeds oriented around engagement. Literally 100% of the flow of information is being shaped by interested parties, from the beginning to the end. (If you had told me that powerful people/organizations could not get tweets removed, I would have been surprised; based on my e…

> Literally 100% of the flow of information is being shaped by interested parties Honest question: would you be similarly dismissive if it turned out that it’s secretly mostly the right who “shapes the flow of information” in order to influence public’s opinion and has already used that power during the past election cycles? Remember - we’re not talking about some minor news outlet here. We are talking about social m…

> Honest question: would you be similarly dismissive if it turned out that it’s secretly mostly the right who “shapes the flow of information” in order to influence public’s opinion and has already used that power during the past election cycles?

This indeed happens, The [Sinclair Broadcast Group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group) being one of the most prominent examples. They're a huge nationwide TV station operator known for pushing conservative narratives nationwide and for supporting Donald Trump during his campaign.

One of Sinclair's assets is its reach and influence, and they are very transparent about that. If you're in the US and this is news to you, you might want to check if your local Fox or NBC (or CBS, ABC, etc) network is affiliated: https://sbgi.net/tv-stations/

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Post by ergocoder »

_8j50 wrote: post #610

Why is this propaganda bullshit on the front page. I gotta ask about moderation on HN here. This is literally moderation, "the twitter files" my ass. They pretext political contributions and falsley connect legitimate moderation to that. Of course they should have blocked that story and still should. Oh, but get this, it's their platform they get to do what they want. They are not an impartial government agency. In t…

That is just your opinion. Many people disagree.

Particularly, a congressman requested tweets to be removed through special channel is interesting.

Twitter determined that the article from an established news outlet is a hacked material, even though that should have been determined by law enforcement is interesting.

If you don't like it, you can just skip the post.

I'm sure there are hundreds of posts on front-page that you are not interested.

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Post by Georgelemental »

_8j50 wrote: post #610

Why is this propaganda bullshit on the front page. I gotta ask about moderation on HN here. This is literally moderation, "the twitter files" my ass. They pretext political contributions and falsley connect legitimate moderation to that. Of course they should have blocked that story and still should. Oh, but get this, it's their platform they get to do what they want. They are not an impartial government agency. In t…

When it coordinates moderation decisions with government, it's not a private platform anymore

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by Georgelemental »

trentgreene wrote: post #566

Could someone explain to me how twitter has any legal obligation to provide a platform supporting all types of 1A protected content? Doesn’t that violate the owner of twitters 1A rights? If I owned a message board, and started deleting users post at random, or because of personal taste, would that be a 1A violation? I may or may not be an asshole, but it’s my message board. There are other parallels I can draw, but t…

In this case, Twitter was deleting posts at the request of the government. That is the 1A violation

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Post by googlryas »

hackernewds wrote: post #796
googlryas wrote: post #688

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's one tweet. What about the tweet by the spokeswoman suspended for referencing a NY Post article?

As has been lengthily defended by Twitter, the developing situation was that the material might have been hacked, and the product of an adversarial state government. If that were true in that situation, imagine the implications for Twitter for having amplified it

That's a very convenient excuse for blocking anything you want unt it is irrelevant. I also like how, now that the provenance of the laptop is not doubted, and hacking and Russia were not involved, people say "it doesn't matter, there was nothing incriminating on the laptop anyway". What a strange OP for Russia to pull off, you'd think they sold forge something juicy if it was their plan.

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Post by evanb »

brchn wrote: post #873
romellem wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you read your own source? The Biden team never asked Twitter staff to “handle” anything. They forwarded tweets that [violated twitter’s ToS][1], a Twitter staff member forwarded them for review, and at that point the reviewer said they “handled these.” That’s what content moderation is supposed to do! [1]: https://twitter.com/parkebench/status/1598841731763810304

The fact that they listen to the government requests is the scary part. They should just have a consistent content moderation policy and enforce it.

The linked tweet points to October 2020. That's before the election and long before Biden was installed; the requests were not from the government.

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Post by tekknik »

jliptzin wrote: post #879
nathias wrote: post #691

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the life of a politically inconvenient story: 1. it's conspiracy theory 2. it was obvious to everyone 3. forgotten

I don't understand why this is a story to begin with. Twitter is a private company that does what it wants. It can boot or block whoever or whatever story they want to for whatever reason. Obviously if the people running the site lean towards one political direction, that's going to affect their moderation policies. Why don't we analyze Fox News's decision to run or not run certain stories. People's first mistake is…

> It can boot or block whoever or whatever story they want to for whatever reason.

We discussed this years ago when it first started. When you’re the defacto town square then no, you shouldn’t be able to kick people out for whatever reason.

> Why don't we analyze Fox News's decision to run or not run certain stories.

How do you justify the left ignoring stories in their media? For instance the story about Chase Staub.

> People's first mistake is getting their news from Twitter, or Fox News for that matter.

There’s always an assumption it’s Fox. Try WSJ.

> This is not a free speech issue.

Very much disagree. Ask yourself why you’re so upset at this information. Or if you’re not upset, ask why there is so much anxiety around this story. Clearly some the left are concerned about what this will result in.

> I guess the story is that the people that ran Twitter were left leaning? Which we already knew going into it?

Yes and that’s a problem when they use their political viewpoints to control the conversation.

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