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The comments on this post sure are something. Do I really have this many peers that apparently live in constant fear of the woke Boogeyman?
There's a few different things to unpack with this feature. (1) It would be useful in the context of a general style guide, like a white-label Grammarly. Corporations could set their own prompts for words, phrases, and structures. This would make documentation more consistent. (2) This is dystopian as fuck. Google has the ability to see, aggregate, and now influence what you write in Google docs and Gmail. Who is mak…
> Google has the ability to see, aggregate, and now influence what you write in Google docs and Gmail. Interestingly Microsoft has that power with the Office suite for nearly 40 years now (only a decade if we want to focus on the cloud connected area), do you see specific dystopian influences on society stemming from that ?
I still wonder, how blacklist/whitelist or master/slave has helped or promoted slavery and racism. And how many devs who are from black communities offended by the use of these terms, at least before it was made to be an issue in mainstream. Because right now I feel like this is a "woke feminist" issue. And I'm not a white person. I've never thought otherwise of these words, but maybe that can be because of the mixed…
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>However, the net result is that words are driven out of the language even if everyone involved in the document wouldn't care. No one uses "fuck" in corporate communication either. Is anyone worried about that word being "driven out of the language"? I don't think corporate speech is as influential in overall language use as you are implying.
> No one uses "fuck" in corporate communication either. Swear words are specifically used to be provocative, so naturally they're not going to disappear. Words like "motherboard" or "whitelist" were historically neutral and primarily used in professional settings, so removal from corporate speech is correspondingly a much bigger factor. To be clear, I'm not particularly worried or concerned about this. I don't consid…
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If we're going to play this game, I think dissuading people from using "mother" in the example of "motherboard" is offensive. Mothers are the source of human life on earth, and in that capacity are revered and honored. When we say motherboard, we're making an analogy that suggests the board's significance and universal connection to everything. To discourage the term as an analogy for things that are a universal sour…
The official PC term is now “birthing person”, “birthing people”, “people giving birth” and similar. Think of that what you will.
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That's not what the word "objectively" means Whitelist and blacklist are the words we've been using for decades to describe a concept. Everybody knows what they mean.
> words we've been using for decades to describe a concept. Yeah, and so was calling black men "boy" or using the n-word like 50 years ago. Language changes because people realize there are better words that more people are okay with.
—- The langage police
I still wonder, how blacklist/whitelist or master/slave has helped or promoted slavery and racism. And how many devs who are from black communities offended by the use of these terms, at least before it was made to be an issue in mainstream. Because right now I feel like this is a "woke feminist" issue. And I'm not a white person. I've never thought otherwise of these words, but maybe that can be because of the mixed…
Calling a "landlord" a proprietor (example from the article) does nothing to change the actual dynamic between landlord and tenant. You have only changed the symbols you use without affecting any meaningful change in the world. Maybe a devil's advocate would say, "Symbols evoke feelings evoke action and thus we are affecting people's actions". That's the strongest counter-argument I can think of, and it's not very convincing either. Not sure how a landlord would suddenly change how they act because they are now proprietors.
It's almost like it's just some basic pattern matching software they're using to help catch and highlight common mistakes when reviewing text at the risk of false positives rather than waiting until they have a fully sentient god-level AI that knows everything.
I still wonder, how blacklist/whitelist or master/slave has helped or promoted slavery and racism. And how many devs who are from black communities offended by the use of these terms, at least before it was made to be an issue in mainstream. Because right now I feel like this is a "woke feminist" issue. And I'm not a white person. I've never thought otherwise of these words, but maybe that can be because of the mixed…
The biggest annoyance for me is that the word/woke policing throws out the most important thing: context. We don’t punish people for crimes until we’ve had a look at the context and establish their specific intention (Strict liability withstanding) so why are we not doing the same with words and sentences? Master/slave debacle is a prime example. Yes it can be used offensively. But for gods sake, look at the context!…
I think what you're trying to say is that people don't mean to be offensive when they reference slavery this way. And you're right about that. Similarly, if I ask someone how their mom is right after she died, I'm probably not trying to be hurtful. But not intending an outcome doesn't actually prevent you from getting that outcome. If somebody tells you their mom is dead, and you didn't mean to be hurtful, you won't keep asking after her, because now you're aware of the effect it has.