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Post by webkike »

bigdollopenergy wrote: post #762
cletus wrote: post #552

Does anyone think this was a failed pivot from the p0rn and the backlash was so great that they backpedaled? It actually reminds me of Ebay. Ebay became big with online auctions but as soon as they did they seemed to want to no longer be in the auction business. Instead they wanted to be in the online retail business. Maybe because there was more money per customer. Maybe because online retail was larger. Personally…

Doubt it. This IMO is probably the best PR maneuver ever conceived. I doubt they ever planned to do it. The BBC was just about to release a long-researched exposé about all the moderation issues they have and how child porn and abuse were going unchecked on their platform. This was a supposed to be a huge deal that could destroy them if the media at large rallied around that story like they did with Pornhub. By makin…

They’ll just publish the article again. I don’t see why that type of controversy would just go away.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by disruptthelaw »

bigdollopenergy wrote: post #762
cletus wrote: post #552

Does anyone think this was a failed pivot from the p0rn and the backlash was so great that they backpedaled? It actually reminds me of Ebay. Ebay became big with online auctions but as soon as they did they seemed to want to no longer be in the auction business. Instead they wanted to be in the online retail business. Maybe because there was more money per customer. Maybe because online retail was larger. Personally…

Doubt it. This IMO is probably the best PR maneuver ever conceived. I doubt they ever planned to do it. The BBC was just about to release a long-researched exposé about all the moderation issues they have and how child porn and abuse were going unchecked on their platform. This was a supposed to be a huge deal that could destroy them if the media at large rallied around that story like they did with Pornhub. By makin…

This is the most plausible explanation in my opinion.

OF we’re in the potential firing line so they rallied their user base and created a strong narrative.

They can now say that they tried to limit porn but too many vulnerable people would suffer as a result.

It’s a brilliant maneuver if this is what happened.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by biztos »

da_chicken wrote: post #405
rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

> People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. Once they know it's possible, people want a one click solution for anything. The subject being taboo has nothing to do with it. This is one reason why Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Netflix did such a good job combatting piracy for music, video games, and movies, while ROM sites are still a ubiquitous problem for 2…

YouTube was an absolute cesspit of copyright violation until (well after acquisition) it wasn’t. Move fast, break things, but I guess it matters which things.

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Post by wtf_is_up »

dariosalvi78 wrote: post #772
bobthechef wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> COVID hit recently graduated Gen-Z incredibly hard. Gen-Z is less sexually active than previous generations. Significantly so. They've been exposed to porn at an earlier age (owing to earlier access to the internet and the ubiquity of pornography online). Porn use was already common among them. The lockdown made things worse, but the status quo was already in place. > There's huge groups that are/were unemployed an…

I can't believe I am reading this in 2021, seriously.

What year could you believe reading this in?

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Post by wtf_is_up »

cblconfederate wrote: post #602
psyc wrote: post #588

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot going on in the porn world, especially now that it's, er, democratized. Sex workers is very broad. Porn stars is a little fuzzy. Some porn stars are big names, and/or can actually act pretty well. Or excel at creating fantasies. A surprising number of cam girls just sit at their desk fully clothed, chin in hand, and the only action is their eyes darting around their monitor while bad background music ge…

"Sex workers" is synonymous with prostitution. Pornography is a form of art. "Sex artists" would make more sense. "Sex worker" sounds very pedestrian, we don't call actors or singers "theater workers". As for the girls just sitting in their desks that doesnt sound like sex-related work at all, they might as well be called cam-artists. This is a not a tiny niche anymore, there is space for more than one terms.

Actor and singer seem just as pedestrian.

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Post by Rapzid »

mumblemumble wrote: post #130
dna_polymerase wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it should be noted that she is a brilliant individual it should NOT be noted. Too many good people died in the wars of past centuries to get us to the freedom and liberty we enjoy today to let any fundamentalists dictate what a normal job is and who works it. Sex work is work and if you dislike it you'd might enjoy Afghanistan these days.

We should try to read each others' comments in the most charitable light possible. In this case, I think the friendly way to interpret that comment is as an attempt to anticipate and pre-empt a very common and harmful misconception about sex workers.

I vouched for the flagged and dead comment.

I read it as saying that it shouldn't need to be stated, ideally, that she is brilliant because of stigma around sex work and workers. That we have then freedom to do this as we please in the USA, it's legit work, and many people of all intelligence levels and circumstances may choose to do it.

It's a strongly worded opinion and with Afghanistan thrown in, but we all know the Taliban's history of repression soo.. I think it's worth everyone seeing.

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Post by dragonwriter »

cblconfederate wrote: post #602
psyc wrote: post #588

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot going on in the porn world, especially now that it's, er, democratized. Sex workers is very broad. Porn stars is a little fuzzy. Some porn stars are big names, and/or can actually act pretty well. Or excel at creating fantasies. A surprising number of cam girls just sit at their desk fully clothed, chin in hand, and the only action is their eyes darting around their monitor while bad background music ge…

"Sex workers" is synonymous with prostitution. Pornography is a form of art. "Sex artists" would make more sense. "Sex worker" sounds very pedestrian, we don't call actors or singers "theater workers". As for the girls just sitting in their desks that doesnt sound like sex-related work at all, they might as well be called cam-artists. This is a not a tiny niche anymore, there is space for more than one terms.

> "Sex workers" is synonymous with prostitution.

Not generally; its typically used either more broadly (though not strictly more broadly, as nonconsensual acts wouldn't generally be included) than “prostitution”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_work#Types

Or strictly more narrowly than prostitution, as in:

https://theconversation.com/who-are-we-talking-about-when-we...

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Post by atatatat »

Sebb767 wrote: post #505
lawn wrote: post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And also why piracy is increasing again as the movie/TV series space is becoming so fragmented.

I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

University libraries

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Post by vmception »

purple_ferret wrote: post #44
adriancr wrote: post #37

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They are probably looking for alternative payment methods. (coinbase payment processor and accept cryptocurrencies?) Or they got some guarantees from banks that they won't get banned. Their options are to die like tumbler or fight a bit. Moving away from traditional payment processors might cause problems for them as well.

>(coinbase payment processor and accept cryptocurrencies?) https://www.coinbase.com/legal/prohibited

Its only a matter of time before better merchant ux is done all client side, and the crypto funds arent linkable by exchanges to curb cashing out
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