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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by hellotomyrars »

irrational wrote: post #852
wonderwonder wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).

I’m surprised too. It’s like using pornhub to post SFW tech tip videos.

There actually was quite a bit of SFW content on their before the big purge. Quite a few people choosing to use it as a weird alternative to YouTube for their non-porn gaming stuff and also using it reupload/mirror content from YouTube.

It was always weird but also kind of fascinating to dive in to.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by ScionOfDesign »

lucymort wrote: post #392

We're building an alternative to OnlyFans! And we're hiring a Head of Engineering and a Senior Engineer! https://angel.co/l/2vyMwb https://angel.co/l/2vA8yr HMU lucy@sunroom.so

I'm curious, what cloud or SaaS solutions are your company using? Many of the cloud solutions I've looked at explicitly forbid pornographic, explicit, or 'obscene' content. Do you self-host instead?

Atlassian Cloud, for example, forbids hosting any of that sort of content on their services, which could make development difficult. With their server subscriptions gone, this is even more of an issue.

Places like Azure will host the content internally, but don't allow you to share the content publicly in any way that ties it back to them. Such as sharing an explicit image on OneDrive or hosting a website that pings back to their IP space.

How do you get around these challenges in development?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by hellotomyrars »

joe_the_user wrote: post #550
skrtskrt wrote: post #94

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. Just a note that Tumblr's anti-porn policy has been fairly leaky and users basically adapted to it. After a decline, the site now hosts nearly as much porn as previously. The problem is that onlyfans has a much bigger spotlight on it. So yeah, one wonders how people justify just killing their product.

Even still they went from selling for a billion to being sold for three million. Maybe not entirely fair to blame it purely on the anti-porn push, as the general trends of social media platforms isn’t particularly kind to most companies, but it sure didn’t help.

But agreed that I didn’t know OnlyFans had any meaningful non-porn content. And the business sense in this seems 100% geared towards a short term payout with no regard for what happens afterward.

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Post by makeitdouble »

dmix wrote: post #766
actually_a_dog wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever can operate beyond those constraints, which is kind of a sad state of affairs for free speech, separation of church and state, and policing in general. Welcome to the "free(…

This pedantic argument is so tired. This is not about arguing over the details of some economic model. The problem is culturally pushing some neopuritan nonsense, always in a highly selective way as you can always find a ton of contradictions. Not to mention when you consider the practicality of outright banning entire market categories in order to combat tiny edge cases. These conversations should be about the end r…

> The problem is culturally pushing some neopuritan nonsense, always in a highly selective way as you can always find a ton of contradiction

But are you willing to argue the same for every minor group of content/business that gets selected out but the same economic model ?

We'll be pushing en masse against banning porn. Will we also be doing the same for every single category of legit business that credit card companies won't touch for any reason they feel like ?

That seems highly unrealistic to me, and we're basically saying to minority groups that the day Mastercard doesn't want them as customers they're done and done.

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Post by anovikov »

This is good because it will mean an upsurge of competitors. I personally know several.

In general, internet is mostly about porn or sex (Tinder, Facebook which is really for hookups when it's not for paid political propaganda), or for illegal activity (fintech, darknets) or for scam (adtech, freelance sites). I wonder what people who opt for "none of the above" are thinking.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by SilverRed »

dhanna wrote: post #793
andy_ppp wrote: post #568

Does anyone else here feel the Onlyfans phenomenon is just exploiting sad lonely men who’d be better off leaving the house, doing some exercise and trying to eat healthier and build their IRL social networks? This whole cam-girls making a fortune this way seems somehow more dishonest than normal porn to me, maybe because it’s about these guys (who can never have relationships with these women) building a personal and…

Clearly you don’t use onlyfans lmao. It’s just porn dude.

It's clearly not "just porn" or it would have no value at all since there is unlimited free content. It seems like the entire value the platform provides is some kind of social interaction with the content creators.

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Post by wonderwonder »

wrycoder wrote: post #842
wonderwonder wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).

Bait and switch. Even if they lose the bulk of their customers, they will still have a bigger network than if they had started with the same platform, but without the porn.

Sure, but its a much smaller network than they had when they applied for financing at their desired valuation. Why would I give them a valuation of a billion dollars if they suddenly lose some large (by some estimates 60+ %) portion of their income. I think this begins their slow demise.

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Post by pault »

mzs wrote: post #342
taylodl wrote: post #257

Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

Can they not setup an account on another for profit service which will commit to verify identity, age, and consent of performers?

Yes, in the same way that you can set up a video content channel on a site other than YouTube. It's not the hosting, it's the massive amount of traffic and exposure that can't be replicated by another service.

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Post by MrRadar »

truth_ wrote: post #858
redisman wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at all. If someone told anyone I know they have a onlyfans, I can’t think of anyone who would assume anything other than porn

Patreon was able to change that though. Yes,there was a time when Patreon meant porn. But now a lot of mainstream artists, YouTubers, etc. using Patreon.

When was that? I've been supporting people on Patreon since 2014 and it's basically been the same mix of independent comic artists and Youtubers the entire time. I know there was a ruckus when they kicked porn off the site, but I never knew they were on there in the first place.
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