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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by JoshuaRLi »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

Agree with all these points (also an iPhone SE 2016 user). One more point to consider is whether or not the iPhone SE 2016 will continue to get OS updates.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Daneel_ »

mettamage wrote: post #875
justinator wrote: post #858

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. I'm surprised about 1100+ comments, since this is, you know: just another phone

No it's not. The HN crowd has a vocal group of people who advocate for phones like the iPhone SE. The main complaint of this group is that other phones are too big. So a new release of the SE brings a lot of hope for extending that experience. The fact that this phone is bigger doesn't sit well with this vocal minority, because they want a small smartphone and now see that medium is the only available in stock. Expec…

This comment is really the perfect summation of the issue.

For what it's worth, I'm also a firm believer of "it should be useable with one hand without akwardness". 4.5" would be my perfect size; just slightly smaller than the current small offerings on the market. I currently have an iphone X and really dislike the form factor - it's just too large, and the rounded corners lend themselves to slipping out of the hand. The square edge design really was the easiest the grip - I hope it makes a return on the next iphone pro. The ipad pro has gone back to the square edge design already, so there's some small hope in this regard.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by goatherders »

rl3 wrote: post #869
justinator wrote: post #858

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. I'm surprised about 1100+ comments, since this is, you know: just another phone

> I'm surprised about 1100+ comments, since this is, you know: just another phone For as insightful as the HN crowd usually is, it's funny that we all just swarm a thread about a new phone that isn't terribly remarkable.

Agreed. I'm only here to see how worked up people can get about another phone that's 98% the same as all the other phones.

As for it being faster than all Android phones. Ok. And? I dont look at my Galaxy and say "if only this was 1 or 2 or 5 or 6.7% faster." We are kind of past the "it should be faster!" for basically ALL smartphones in my view.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Razengan »

mcv wrote: post #826
Razengan wrote: post #709

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. iOS has its problems, but every time I have to handle somebody's Android (i.e. to help them do something faster than telling them), I want to give it back as quickly as possible.

Part of that is of course what you're used to, but a lot of Android phone makers put their UI and crapware over Android. I don't know why they put extra effort into making their phones worse. I tend to look for the purest Android I can find.

> I don't know why they put extra effort into making their phones worse.

How else will you distinguish between them?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by 1123581321 »

RileyJames wrote: post #847

Have been considering a replacement for my 6S, this looks like the ticket. Is there an adaptor / dongle that can enable charging while using a headset? I’ve seen the lighting to audio dongles. Is there a lightning to lighting+audio?

Yes, there are lightning to 3.5mm audio adapters. It will also come with lightning port EarPods you could use.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by rjzzleep »

bruxis wrote: post #874
ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

I'm not sure why you cite Japan as an outlier regarding size preferences and smaller-than-average hand sizes, which I generally do not believe to be true and could not find any hard data to cite (source: I live there). Regardless, the iPhone SE did not sell _as_ well in Japan due to a variety of factors, not the least of which being that the iPhone 7 introduced built-in Suica support. Suica is a mobile cash card tech…

People have been hoping that Google opts for global NFC capability but Pixel4 disappointed everyone on that regard.

Sony and NTT Docomo have a stranglehold on the Android ecosystem. No JP NFC supporting android phone ever has more than 3 LTE bands. The only unlocked Android phone that isn't crippled is Oppo's Reno A, and that's an expensive middle range Qualcomm SoC, which is slower than Apples 3 year old devices.

Apples iOS presence in Japan is VERY well executed.

For reference:

https://atadistance.net/

https://www.reddit.com/user/FelicaDude/comments/

EDIT: kinda curious why there are so many downvotes. There isn't anything factually wrong about this post.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by kdtsh »

SECProto wrote: post #871
kdtsh wrote: post #868

People will get it or they won’t, the HN crowd is probably a fairly small demographic compared to who Apple is trying to gear this towards: people who want an affordable, new iPhone. For my part (SE user of 2 years, and before that a 5s user), this fits my needs pretty well, and it’s got the latest hardware. The lack of a headphone jack was always going to happen, that’s just the way of the world and nothing will cha…

> The lack of a headphone jack was always going to happen, that’s just the way of the world and nothing will change it I just got a Galaxy s10e which has both a headphone jack and an SD card slot. I choose to purchase phones that have the things I need in a phone. (If I were committed to the apple ecosystem, I'd get one of these new SEs because of the smaller form factor and lower price.)

What I mean is that new phones which have a headphone jack are the exception rather than the norm, and their number seems to be diminishing. Maybe if people voted with their wallets it would stop the development in this direction, but it seems like too few people are concerned with this issue (I’m one of them - it’s just not going to turn me off a potential phone).

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by lsc »

koheripbal wrote: post #270
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

...as someone who absolutely loves big phones - I am on the other side of this argument. I read and watch shows on my phone constantly, and screen size is a major factor for me. I specifically buy clothes with larger pockets to accommodate. I agree that choice would be better - but I imagine that economies of scale sometimes means having only one size for everyone if you want to keep them cheaper than the competition…

for me, devices of different sizes do different things; I carry a lot of specialized devices, from a small laptop to a giant e reader to a regular sized ereader to a cellphone to a watch, and for me? the thing that is currently missing is a thing I can input text on with one hand (while doing something with the other hand) the SE original filled that gap; the iphone 7 is slightly too large to comfortably input text with using one hand, it's a little cramped to input text with two, at least for my hands.)

I should try one of those pop-out deals and see if it makes using the iphone 7 with one hand practical.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by [deleted] »

threepio wrote: post #173
wuliwong wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>fans of the iPhone 4/5 series (like me) Maybe this group that you described is a small minority now?

IIRC the iPhone is the most profitable consumer product ever. If anything, it should be able to support a greater diversity of models than it does. Because even the "small minority" slices are still large in absolute terms. For instance, I'd suppose a niche iPhone could still be more profitable than, say, the new Mac Pro, which is expensive and looks cool but doesn't sell that many units.

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