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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by DenisM »

boulos wrote: post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

If you made a .NET library that allows easily connecting to both AWC and GCS by only changing the endpoint I would certainly use that library instead of Amazon's own.

Just saying, it gets you a foot in the door.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by 7ewis »

hkmurakami wrote: post #873
JPKab wrote: post #753

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used both Google Cloud and AWS, and as of a year or so ago, I'm a Google Cloud convert. (Before that, you guys didn't at all have your shit together when it came to customer support) It's not in bad taste, despite other comments saying otherwise. We need to recognize that competition is good, and Amazon isn't the answer to everything.

>(Before that, you guys didn't at all have your shit together when it came to customer support) Sounds like it basically coincides with Diane Greene coming on board to run the show -- which is great news for all of us with increased competition on not just the technical front but also support (which is often the deal maker/breaker)

Is Diane really that good?

I was at a talk last year, where she spoke, and as much as I love Google, it was one of the boat boring talks I've ever heard in my life. So monotone and uninteresting... and I'm probably one of the biggest Google fans out there.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by 7ewis »

nodesocket wrote: post #856
boulos wrote: post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

Not poor taste at all. Love GCP. I actually host two corporate static sites using Google Cloud Storage and it is fantastic. I just wish there was a bucket wide setting to adjust the cache-control setting. Currently it defaults to 1 hour, and if you want to change it, you have to use the API/CLI and provide a custom cache control value each upload. I'd love to see a default cache-control setting in the web UI applying…

How did you get the pass?

Been trying to get one for IO (can't attend NEXT unfortunately)

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by spuiszis »

vacri wrote: post #868
JPKab wrote: post #753

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used both Google Cloud and AWS, and as of a year or so ago, I'm a Google Cloud convert. (Before that, you guys didn't at all have your shit together when it came to customer support) It's not in bad taste, despite other comments saying otherwise. We need to recognize that competition is good, and Amazon isn't the answer to everything.

My experience of support with Google Apps for Business makes me very wary of using anything Google for critical business infra. Google products are nice, but as soon as you hit a problem or edge case, you're on your own in my experience.

Wish I could +1 this more. Any time I get some error, I spend hours sifting through old documentation and forum posts.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by andmarios »

dividuum wrote: post #864
andmarios wrote: post #850

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I understand the S3 API of Cloud Storage is meant as a temporary solution until a proper migration to Google's APIs. The S3 keys it produces are tied to your developer account. This means that if someone gets the keys from your NAS, he will have access to all the Cloud Storage buckets you have access to (e.g your employer's). I use Google Cloud but not Amazon. Once I wanted a S3 bucket to try with NextCloud…

Is there any equivalent to the Bucket Policies that AWS provides ( http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/example-bucke... ). Cloud Storage seems to be limited to relatively simple policies without conditionals. For a few AWS IAM keys I set up a policy that limits write/delete access to a range of IPs (among other things). Something like that doesn't seem possible with what Google offers. Or do I miss somethi…

I am not familiar with AWS bucket policies, but AFAIK there isn't a way to set IP based access to GCS buckets.

To be honest, I do find the GCS permissions a bit complex. You have IAM, you have ACLs and you have S3 keys. Everything is set in a different place and ACLs aren't fully represented on the developers console. S3 keys give full access to everything, IAM service accounts give access per project and ACLs are fine grained (per bucket/object). On the other hand, IIRC, IAM has a write only setting, while ACLs do not. So I can have an account that can write only to all the buckets of my project but not an ACL (not that useful).

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by contingencies »

7ewis wrote: post #882
hkmurakami wrote: post #873

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>(Before that, you guys didn't at all have your shit together when it came to customer support) Sounds like it basically coincides with Diane Greene coming on board to run the show -- which is great news for all of us with increased competition on not just the technical front but also support (which is often the deal maker/breaker)

Is Diane really that good? I was at a talk last year, where she spoke, and as much as I love Google, it was one of the boat boring talks I've ever heard in my life. So monotone and uninteresting... and I'm probably one of the biggest Google fans out there.

I have no idea about the person in question, but stable and reliable infrastructure can be really boring. Unfortunately, it's also necessary.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by ec109685 »

ianamartin wrote: post #865

This is why it's important to write code that doesn't depend on only a single service provider. S3 is great. But it's better to set up a Riak cluster on AWS than to actually use S3, if you can. The only services my team uses directly are EC2 and RDS, and I'm thinking of moving RDS over to EC2 instances. We are entirely portable. We can move my entire team's infrastructure to a different cloud host really quickly. Our…

Not knowing your situation exactly, but there could be a cost of running your own infrastructure and not taking advantage of their services? For example, are the chances of losing data higher in riak (take into account disaster and operational bugs that could result in data loss or availability issues) than in one of amazon's supported data stores.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying but there is cost of doing everything yourself.

You would have been equally protected if you had been in more than one region.

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