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Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by wakawaka28 » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 5:16 AM UTC

eloisant wrote: post #725

sokoloff wrote: post #649

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> There is a population of qualified workers in the software sector, and only new grads and retirement can move the needle significantly. “Qualified” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Just like the first dotcom boom and crash, there were people in other fields who got into software during the boom time and went back to whatever other field after the crash.

Also there isn't one profile of software developers. At least 3 tiers: the FAANG level, the mid-size tech companies, then all the developers working for non-tech companies/administration or in IT service companies. Even in those categories, workers aren't swappables.

If they're not swappable, that supports my claim about scarcity even more. But I also have people here saying that you can swap in anybody vaguely technical, sometimes without credentials at all, to fill these roles even at FAANG.

I happen to think workers with minimum qualifications like a CS degree can be fairly swappable, at least more than FAANG types would have us believe. But they're very elitist when it comes to hiring. I have practically given up on being hired at FAANG companies, and these days I think their jobs are overrated too. Sign up to bust your ass 50 hours per week with backstabbing snobs, till you get laid off unceremoniously. I'd rather not.

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by autaut » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 5:33 AM UTC

jobgh wrote: post #854

_heimdall wrote: post #794

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Layoffs don't necessarily lead to share prices dropping, in the short term or long term. It definitely wouldn't impact the loans he presumably lives off of by using said shares as collateral.

The severance that is paid out is money that could have been paid out to owners (him)

No they couldn’t because the severance is paid out of the money the budget set aside for wages for the year. So out of the 12 months, they give 4 months to the laid off worker and Facebook pockets the other 8 months.

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by wazzup01 » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 5:39 AM UTC

hintymad wrote: post #205

Let's be honest, Meta over hired. Big time. If anyone ever interviewed a few Meta engineers, he would easily see that a large percentage of them had really small, and sometimes bullshit scopes. As a result, such engineers couldn't articulate what they do in Meta, couldn't deep dive into their own tech stacks, nor could solve common-sense design questions when they just deviated a bit from those popular interview ques…

You no who I am ( meta )it me .0. I'm coming to see u meta u killed and hurt to many people. Wear are the children. Kids..... You know who I'm talking about this is holly war people humans you know as well. This is not your world 2010 to 2025 it's human world

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by altmanaltman » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 5:43 AM UTC

pipes wrote: post #732

altmanaltman wrote: post #440

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Can you elaborate on what you mean by "central banks got inflation so wrong the last time"? You mean Covid or 2008?

Covid. The ex head of the bank of England said as much.

I mean the American recovery after a global disaster like Covid was actually pretty good given the situation. What would you propose they should have done instead?

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by wazzup01 » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 5:44 AM UTC

hintymad wrote: post #205

Let's be honest, Meta over hired. Big time. If anyone ever interviewed a few Meta engineers, he would easily see that a large percentage of them had really small, and sometimes bullshit scopes. As a result, such engineers couldn't articulate what they do in Meta, couldn't deep dive into their own tech stacks, nor could solve common-sense design questions when they just deviated a bit from those popular interview ques…

Your computer is the problem meta to many dead people that why computers are fucking up..your programs are tanted and bad programing formula bads. Your killing people

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by wazzup01 » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 5:51 AM UTC

hintymad wrote: post #205

Let's be honest, Meta over hired. Big time. If anyone ever interviewed a few Meta engineers, he would easily see that a large percentage of them had really small, and sometimes bullshit scopes. As a result, such engineers couldn't articulate what they do in Meta, couldn't deep dive into their own tech stacks, nor could solve common-sense design questions when they just deviated a bit from those popular interview ques…

This is the truth god's word

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 6:08 AM UTC

sharadov wrote: post #753

3form wrote: post #655

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I've heard OpenClaw got over 600k lines of code vibed over 80 days. I have this theory that the bloat will follow to the full extent possible. OpenClaw has this, the OpenEye or whatever that comes on another day, with better models, will have 3 million lines of code. All of the possibilities that you mention will not come to fruition the way you'd like to, because speed is preferred over building better things, and t…

Tech debt and maintainability were important because time was of the essence in another era. If the cycles get compressed by say 95%, to hell with it, just trash the old and write everything from scratch, start from a clean slate each time?

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Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 6:08 AM UTC

sharadov wrote: post #753

3form wrote: post #655

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I've heard OpenClaw got over 600k lines of code vibed over 80 days. I have this theory that the bloat will follow to the full extent possible. OpenClaw has this, the OpenEye or whatever that comes on another day, with better models, will have 3 million lines of code. All of the possibilities that you mention will not come to fruition the way you'd like to, because speed is preferred over building better things, and t…

Tech debt and maintainability were important because time was of the essence in another era. If the cycles get compressed by say 95%, to hell with it, just trash the old and write everything from scratch, start from a clean slate each time?

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Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by jasomill » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 6:08 AM UTC

sharadov wrote: post #753

3form wrote: post #655

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard OpenClaw got over 600k lines of code vibed over 80 days. I have this theory that the bloat will follow to the full extent possible. OpenClaw has this, the OpenEye or whatever that comes on another day, with better models, will have 3 million lines of code. All of the possibilities that you mention will not come to fruition the way you'd like to, because speed is preferred over building better things, and t…

Tech debt and maintainability were important because time was of the essence in another era. If the cycles get compressed by say 95%, to hell with it, just trash the old and write everything from scratch, start from a clean slate each time?

So fix a system's known bugs by creating an entirely new system with a fresh set of unknown bugs?

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by jeltz » Sat, Apr 25, 2026, 6:27 AM UTC

jupp0r wrote: post #866

nradov wrote: post #818

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That may be good enough for consumer facing systems. Rewrites seldom go well for enterprise systems of record because the code embodies a lot of undocumented but critical requirements. If you start vibe coding from a clean slate then all of that knowledge is lost and you've created an even bigger problem.

I don't think that needs to be true either anymore. Exhaustive specifications and comprehensive test suites are easily created now too. That's why I think software engineering will not go away, it will just change drastically.

It will change and most likely for worse. The new applications will be even buggier and worse than what we have now.