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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #767

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> this type of stuff really makes me doubt their AGI claims, why would they bother with this stuff if they were confident of having AGI within the next few years? because AGI doesn't grow in a cage, it requires a piece of software running somewhere. someone has to build both to get that happen. that is like a high school level question.

Theoretically it only requires it for birth. One can argue that once we achieve the singularity, it could immediately scale on its own as it decides.

> One can argue that once we achieve the singularity, it could immediately scale on its own as it decides.

even if this is true, someone needs to build the platform and the software required to get to the singularity.

one can also argue that lots of $ is required to get to the singularity, taking control of how the world builds, deploys and operates the digital world is a proven avenue to get such $.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Judging by all their mistakes in the last years, Russian war and AI, it’s only a matter of time until someone buys them out.

With the way they're going, I'm less and less convinced there will be much left to buy, unless it's for pennies. I've only been a JetBrains user for five years but it's felt like it's only getting worse the whole time.

To be fair, everything is getting worse the whole time.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #569

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Sure, but if tomorrow uv and ruff ceased to exist, we could all go back to any number of other solutions.

Ruff is nice, but not important, uv is one of the few things making the python ecosystem bearable. Python is a language for monkeys, and if you don't give monkeys good tools, they will forever entangle themselves and you . It is all garbage wrapped in garbage. At least let me deploy it without having to manually detangle all that garbage by version. I'm done pretending this is a "right tools for the right job" kind o…

I guess it's an individual solution to that, but it's a solution that basically worsens the actual problem, as I see it, which is strict/narrow version pinning with frequent updates to latest and minimal effort to track backwards compatibility let alone try to maintain it. It just turns it into nodejs constant wrestling with package.json changes.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Congrats to the Astral team, they've done great work and deserve everything. As a user of uv who was hoping it would be a long term stable predictable uninteresting part of my toolchain this sucks, right?

congrats for.. selling out? wut

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #371

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Can't blame you for not trusting OpenAI, but it seems to me they would gain very little from fucking up uv (or more precisely doing things that have a side effect of fucking up uv), and they have tons of incentive to cultivate developer good will. Better to think of buying and supporting a project like this as a very cheap way to make developers think they're not so bad.

But what happens to the Astral team if OpenAI flops at the IPO or runs out of companies throwing billions at them? This is a bad thing IMHO

Nothing worse than what would have happened to the Astral team if they had ran out of funding rounds without an exit...

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#876

Astral to Join OpenAI (astral.sh) OpenAI to Acquire Astral( https://openai.com/index/openai-to-acquire-astral/ ) what can I say?

You can say "acquire", as the URL you linked to does. It's more honest than the mealy-mouthed "join".

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #603

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It's also a crowded and super mature space space between JFrog (Artifactory) and Sonatype (Nexus). They already support private PyPI repositories and are super locked in at pretty much every enterprise-level company out there.

I've used JFrog Artifactory before and I wish I didn't.

Ditto for nexus

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #664

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You seem to be underestestimating the laziness of the people, and overestimating their resolve. Angry forks usually don't last, angst doesn't prevent maintenance burnouts.

clicking "fork" in github is pretty easy

If you think clicking “fork” is all there is to it, I have some bad news for you.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#880
post #69

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Astral was building a private package hosting system for enterprise customers. That was their stated approach to becoming profitable, while continuing to fund their open source work.

Private package hosting sounds like a commodity that would be hard to differentiate.

With the goodwill and mindshare they earned, it does not feel impossible.

Perhaps OpenAI is aiming for a more compelling suit of things for penetrating enterprise (I'm just speculating as I go here).

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