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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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If some chinese samples of this unstoppable carrier killer made its way to Iran already. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iran-nears-deal-buy-supe... Also, the US News media silence on this is noteworthy. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=reuters+cm-302+missile&ia=w...

If Iran sinks a carrier then the us congress will declare an actual war and that will seal Irans fate. Also, seal the fate of hundreds of thousands of lives.

I'm not so sure.

I think Trump would taco.

A carrier is fair game, especially when you shoot first.

There wouldn't be a coalition with half of Europe. Because of bridges burned.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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I was discussing this with a friend today. It just feels like there's no point to these actions. Not in the sense of "I don't ideologically agree with our decision to do this," but in the sense of, "I do not see how this accomplishes any ideological or practical goal." What are they trying for? Regime change in Iran? No more Iranian nuclear program? There barely was one before. Keeping Israel safe? It's been an open…

The point is preventing another North Korea style nuclear blackmail state. Iran has negotiated like no one will ever attack it, and that was a correct assumption for decades However, due to Iran's overly aggressive use of questionably rational proxies, Hamas has dragged it into a regional conflict where it lost most of its proxies power. After the last war, it also is no longer a threshold state, so the only leverage…

> The point is preventing another North Korea style nuclear blackmail state.

You can bomb the leadership all day long.

Without boots on the ground the regime will probably continue.

I don't see how this stops Iran from building nukes. Sure they may have a temporary set back.

But do you think this will change their minds?

Can they even negotiate a resolution with the US. Given that the current administration won't honor its own agreements.

Did Trump issue an ultimatum here? And demand something?

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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    [T]he War Department will not be distracted by democracy building interventionism, undefined wars, regime change, climate change, woke moralizing and feckless nation building.
    
    - Pete Hegseth, December 6, 2025[1]
[1]: https://www.war.gov/News/Speeches/Speech/Article/4354431/rem...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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post #875

one thing though - food and oil supplies at risk - if the airspace and shipping lanes remain shut down for 1 month or more. people in the Middle East will literally starve and china will run out of fuel - though they've gone mostly electric

> though they've gone mostly electric

Who on earth told you this?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-consumption-by-sou...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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I recall someone (name escapes me at the moment) defining WW3 as ignition in 5 flashpoints between belligerent groupings: - Eastern Africa esp. Sudan, which we all nearly universally ignore - Israel Iran - Russia and a neighbor which we know today is Ukraine - Pakistan Afghanistan India - China Taiwan Plus Plus Attributes that distinguish WW3 from previous world wars were IIRC: Contained conflagration, short targeted…

What's missing here is the complex network of alliances that led to WWI. The Iranian regime has alienated virtually everyone, including many of its Muslim neighbors. Nor is the regime part of some overarching international movement, like the communist countries were. Who is going to lift a finger to help Iran? I'm not supportive of these strikes. Iranians created this government, and if they want to topple it they'll…

Interestingly Iran had moderately good relations with Russia, to whom they sold drones, and China, to whom they sold oil. But indeed not enough for either to help defend Iran.

With Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran, the US is bottling up Russian and Chinese global influence into smaller regional influence.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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I recall someone (name escapes me at the moment) defining WW3 as ignition in 5 flashpoints between belligerent groupings: - Eastern Africa esp. Sudan, which we all nearly universally ignore - Israel Iran - Russia and a neighbor which we know today is Ukraine - Pakistan Afghanistan India - China Taiwan Plus Plus Attributes that distinguish WW3 from previous world wars were IIRC: Contained conflagration, short targeted…

Epstein files have more potent power in them than any nuclear arsenal.

No way this many rich powerful people would go down without destroying at least half of the world.

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