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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by assimpleaspossi »

blactuary wrote: post #862
assimpleaspossi wrote: post #823

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I missed this further in the article. She broke up with him four years after the first claim of rape only after she found out he was with a 22-year old. So she didn't have any problems "escaping" the relationship.

This is gross man. Abusive relationships are way more complicated than that, judging someone in this situation because you read one article about it is out of line

It's the article supplied. If you have another article that says anything different, then supply it. If you have further insight into this specific instance, give it.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

wat10000 wrote: post #447
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #135

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> shows how many people care more about party than principle "Trump’s net approval rating on immigration has declined by about 4 points since the day before Good’s death until today. Meanwhile, his overall approval rating has declined by 2 points and is near its second-term lows" [1]. I'd encourage anyone watching to actually pay attention to "how many people care more about party than principle." I suspect it's fewe…

Two percent of Americans changing their opinion in the face of state sanctioned murder is not a good number.

> Two percent of Americans changing their opinion in the face of state sanctioned murder is not a good number

Two percent could swing an election. And two percent can convince another two percentage points to get angry. Never dismiss small swings out of hand.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by chowchowchow »

charcircuit wrote: post #690
chowchowchow wrote: post #469

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>This is systematically not true as citizens can not be legally deported. And yet. >If someone is not a citizen and are here illegally they should be removed, no matter their intentions. If you are willing to break the law to stay here, I personally don't want them back in the country. Without even getting into the subject of kids who are brought here.. I just have to say, why? Immigrants are net contributors in the…

>just have to say, why? Those who disrespect my countries law do not deserve to benefit from my great country. >Immigrants are net contributors in the US This would not change my opinion one way or the other. >are attempting to follow the rules Well they clearly aren't trying hard enough if they are in the country without a proper visa.

> Those who disrespect my countries law do not deserve to benefit from my great country.

Why? All laws or only some?

> Well they clearly aren't trying hard enough if they are in the country without a proper visa.

This reads as an uninformed statement.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by well_ackshually »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #837
KennyBlanken wrote: post #566

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Thiel lost his shit because Gawker mentioned he was gay in an article on their site. Something _everybody_ in Silicon Valley already knew. Then he goes and forms what essentially amounts to a private CIA. How about Musk? He felt he had a right to hoover up data about people from every government agency, but throws a massive temper-tantrum when people publish where his private jet is flying using publicly available da…

i hate defending thiel since hes literally destroying society, but he didn't get mad at gawker just for outing him he got mad at gawker for deliberately outing him right as he went to meet the saudis for negotiations. a country that literally executes gay people. at best it strained the negotiations and made things awkward, and at worst could have put him in peril. you dont just out people without their consent, and…

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Post by midlander »

EngineerUSA wrote: post #595
yoyohello13 wrote: post #355

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It is ironic that so many of the American billionaires decrying the erosion of American culture were not even born in America.

Thiel, Musk and Murdoch (owner of Fox News) were not born here, and were not even brought up in households of American influence. America is undermined by an enemy within, because no enemy outside our nation can do us damage to the extent these charlatans have done so far

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Post by troyvit »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #823
20after4 wrote: post #818

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Abusive relationships aren't always easy to escape. Even more so when the partner is extremely rich and powerful.

I missed this further in the article. She broke up with him four years after the first claim of rape only after she found out he was with a 22-year old. So she didn't have any problems "escaping" the relationship.

Just a piece of advice. If a woman calls it rape it's not on her to prove it. It's on the man to prove it's not. This goes doubly when you're talking about one of the most powerful men in the world. There are dynamics at play here that none of us would be able to comprehend.

Here's another source:

https://www.kron4.com/news/technology-ai/former-google-ceo-s...

An interesting thing is how most of the photos that the media is using to cover this are sexualized images of Ritter and pics of Schmidt in a suit.

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Post by nobody9999 »

vharuck wrote: post #841
quacked wrote: post #728

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What ICE is doing is naked incompetent fascism and the entity needs to be disbanded with hostility. With that said, no, it's not evil to deport people who entered a country illegally. If I sneak into China, and China finds out, they are morally and legally clear to send me back, whether or not I've had children in China.

It likely wouldn't poll well for elections, but today's ICE does need to be disbanded. Its tasks can be given to other agencies until a replacement can be created and staffed. The recent recruitment drive makes it nearly impossible to reform the agency. There's just too many agents introduced in the poisonous culture and goals. An easy win that should get widespread approval is bolstering the immigration court system…

>An easy win that should get widespread approval is bolstering the immigration court system. I have dark worries, but I'm still not entirely sure why this administration is whittling away at immigration courts. You'd think they'd want to process asylum applications faster, so invalid claimants could be deported sooner.

Absolutely. Especially since upwards of 80% of asylum claims are denied[0] when they actually get adjudicated. Which usually takes years to happen because there aren't enough immigration "courts."

Provide enough immigration "judges" and "courts" and we could clear up the backlog within a couple years. I'd also point out that while asylum seekers aren't (yet) legal immigrants, they are (based on Federal law[1]) legally in the United States until their case has been adjudicated -- once again arguing for increasing the number of immigration "courts" and "judges." It certainly doesn't argue for hundreds of billions of dollars for a bunch of jackbooted thugs to terrorize citizens and immigrants alike, all to deport fewer people than other administrations who didn't need to shoot citizens to do so. Funny that.

[0] https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/factchecking-claims-about-...

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

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Post by fn-mote »

LadyCailin wrote: post #504
iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #158

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This. As much as I would like to say 'individual responsibility' and all that, the sheer amount of information that is designed to make one follow a specific path, react in specific way or offer opinion X is crazy. I am not entirely certain what the solution is, but I am saying this as a person, who likes to think I am somewhat aware of attempts to subvert my judgment and I still catch myself learning ( usually later…

Who is most responsible for stopping Trump from doing horrible shit? Besides of course, Trump himself. Surely that must be his base, yes? Then followed by Americans at large. It’s surely not, say, Canada’s responsibility, no? There’s a spectrum of responsibility, and you can find out who is at the top of that spectrum of those that think the thing is bad, and hold them at least morally responsible. In this case, yes,…

> Who is most responsible for stopping Trump from doing horrible shit?

The Supreme Court. Then congressional leadership of both parties. After that perhaps we could look to governors of large states like New York or California.

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Post by wat10000 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #872
wat10000 wrote: post #447

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Two percent of Americans changing their opinion in the face of state sanctioned murder is not a good number.

> Two percent of Americans changing their opinion in the face of state sanctioned murder is not a good number Two percent could swing an election. And two percent can convince another two percentage points to get angry. Never dismiss small swings out of hand.

I welcome it, don't get me wrong, and every little bit helps. But the fact that we have so many people like this is still a massive problem.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

terminalshort wrote: post #630
EngineerUSA wrote: post #186

Palantir is interesting. Founded by a closeted German, run by an Israeli operative, and a 3rd arm of the federal gov. I wish we could prosecute it in my lifetime for the numerous violations of privacy it undertakes, but the world does not work that way. The rich enjoy private jets subsidized by our hard-earned taxes, while violating ideals held by our Founding fathers (for what would Thiel or the current CEO know abo…

Palantir will never be prosecuted because they don't actually engage in any violations of privacy themselves or take possession of any data. They just sell software that enables it. And their main customer is the people who do the prosecuting. For the government prosecuting Palantir would be an admission of guilt, so it will never happen.

maybe this will end up depending on case law determined by pending suits against RealPage for assisting in rental pricing manipulation. [0]

given the current administration, i'm not holding my breath.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealPage#Lawsuits

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