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Re: Sora 2

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Post by reaperducer »

slg wrote: post #557
groggo wrote: post #504

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It's pretty entertaining. People always like telling stories. Books, comic strips, movies, they're all just telling a story with a different amount of it left up to the viewer's imagination. Lowering the barrier to entry for this type of stuff is so cool. I think you have to be pretty pessimistic to not just think it's really cool. You can find issues with it for sure, and maybe argue that those issues outweigh the b…

>Books, comic strips, movies, they're all just telling a story with a different amount of it left up to the viewer's imagination. Lowering the barrier to entry for this type of stuff is so cool. This response just never feels true to me. Many of the most successful web comics are crude drawings of just stick figures and text[1] with potentially a little color thrown in[2] and like half of the videos I see on TikTok a…

I can't stop myself from thinking that maybe the problem is that these people have nothing interesting to say

Social media is the new CB radio.

But now with an AI-powered addiction factor so you can never put it down, no matter how bad it is.

Blipverts are next.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by reaperducer »

winkelmann wrote: post #541
morleytj wrote: post #496

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Not to be a downer, but even as someone very optimistic about technology and AI generally, "TikTok but AI" sounds like a societally terrible thing to try and create. What's the benefit of this? Curious if anyone has a solid viewpoint steelmanning any positives they can think of.

I think a dedicated "TikTok but AI" is infinitely better than AI videos polluting other platforms. Of course, in practice, the latter is already the case, rendering the theoretical benefits of the former kind of moot. Nonetheless, a platform for AI videos with an audience looking for them, rather than the horrible "boomer-slop" that is prevalent on other social media, is welcome in my eyes.

I think a dedicated "TikTok but AI" is infinitely better than AI videos polluting other platforms.

They'll just cross-post. That's been going on since back when Facebook was The Face Book.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by gnramires »

gnramires wrote: post #642
raincole wrote: post #547

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As a social experiment to reveal how senseless and pointless pop entertainment could be. (personal rant) I've been in a mild existential crisis since I read Amusing Ourselves to Death . Can one form of entertainment really be more well-regarded than another? Is fine art fundamentally different from pop art? Are there 'finer' pop cultures amongst all pop cultures? I do still think reading The Song of Ice and Fire is m…

You might enjoy some of my writings on formalizing meaning (see here[1] and follow the links). In some way, although not always reliable, you can say that if you feel A is more meaningful than B, that is already some kind of evidence for this assertion even if perhaps unreliable in some ways. So there isn't necessarily some huge crisis that you need to justify: in some ways reality just is (and this includes subjecti…

"I live my life in widening circles

that reach out across the world.

I may not complete this last one

but I give myself to it.

I circle around God, around the primordial tower.

I’ve been circling for thousands of years

and I still don’t know: am I a falcon,

a storm, or a great song?"

-- Rainer Maria Rilke

Re: Sora 2

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Post by reaperducer »

sunnybeetroot wrote: post #862
jplusequalt wrote: post #822

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I have been saying this for a long time--generative art is just fine grained consumption. Instead of searching through YouTube/TikTok for content that may interest you, you can now just ask your LLM to generate what you want to see that moment. It's the next evolution of keeping the masses addicted to their devices, and we as software engineers are gleefully supporting this ... because?

Because it pays our bills?

Packing meth into tiny baggies pays someone's bills, too.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by denhaus »

echelon wrote: post #628
matthewaveryusa wrote: post #620

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The classics were classic because they were the most available and the most popular stories of their time, and they meant more in an era where creating and disseminating media was difficult. I love to romanticize a world where we go back to the classics to connect with our past and present better, even if just for the sake of efficiency. For better or for worse media is more ephemeral which means getting to a common…

Welcome to the future, where the notion of "classics" is just a point in the memetic information manifold: https://x.com/theo/status/1973167911419412985 (Music video with Sam Altman as Skibidi Toilet) This is pretty fun. These keep getting wilder and wilder: https://x.com/MatthewBerman/status/1973115097339011225 (Kinda gross) https://x.com/cloud11665/status/1973115723309515092 (Japanese) It can do cartoons: https://x…

the final one is not AI, it’s a glorb video from years ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYSK-_hVDQ

Re: Sora 2

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Post by Razengan »

raincole wrote: post #547
morleytj wrote: post #496

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Not to be a downer, but even as someone very optimistic about technology and AI generally, "TikTok but AI" sounds like a societally terrible thing to try and create. What's the benefit of this? Curious if anyone has a solid viewpoint steelmanning any positives they can think of.

As a social experiment to reveal how senseless and pointless pop entertainment could be. (personal rant) I've been in a mild existential crisis since I read Amusing Ourselves to Death . Can one form of entertainment really be more well-regarded than another? Is fine art fundamentally different from pop art? Are there 'finer' pop cultures amongst all pop cultures? I do still think reading The Song of Ice and Fire is m…

> The Song of Ice and Fire

is a trash derivative "we have Lords of the Rings at home" wannabe, completely void of joy and feels like it's written by an angsty edgy teenager who hates the world and has learned about medieval history for the first time and wanted to add zombies and dragons, the most original fantasy tropes.

I would honestly and unsarcastically take a day of scrolling through TikTok over sitting through 1 chapter of ASoIaF.

And apparently lately the author feels so too.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by nurettin »

bbor wrote: post #755
nurettin wrote: post #212

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I am not for or against AGI, but why is there anxiety around it? Do people simply hear sales rhetoric and assume that it can exist and will be used in order to dominate their lives?

I'm not referencing sales rhetoric, I'm referencing scientific consensus. AGI will have the same kind of impact on our species as fire and electricity did. We stand at a crossroads between unimaginable success and enormous catastrophe...

Well, good luck with that, hopefully it will learn to spell blueberry.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by bongodongobob »

shoobiedoo wrote: post #519
bongodongobob wrote: post #498

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What about a new electric guitar? Your grandma wouldn't want that on her deathbed so it's useless? Cmon man.

Still zero responses, eh? My example was charged but I clearly had a point: how does AI fill a void where meaning should be, over what has worked for centuries? How is it better than face to face, or a handwritten letter?

I don't think anyone is saying it is.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by chris_wot »

aubanel wrote: post #789
chris_wot wrote: post #488

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Well, look at Wikimedia. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:This_Is_Fine_(meme).... Here is a direct example of a derived work, to the point where the prompt is "n orange-brown anthropomorphic dog sitting in a chair at a table in a room that is engulfed in flames, happy dog sitting on chair at a table viewed from the side, dog with a hat, room is burning with fire all across the room". That's covered by Fair Use…

Thank you, interesting! I don't know that much about Fair use: if I understand well, the key is that the use should be "transformative", right? Am I correct in understanding that: - if the original "This is fine" meme was under copyright, the dog picture would be exempted from copyright by Fair use as it's a transformation - here it's not even needed since the original is not under copyright ("this is not a derived w…

It was a batshit insane decision, and a wrong one. Also: Commons doesn't allow for Fair Use images, so actually the decision was made that this wasn't transformative as it wasn't a derivative image.

You tell me if that was a derivative image or not. I argued it was, and the argument was completely ignored.

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