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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

it is the uberization of the tech market.

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#872

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The United States Military is the most terrifying institution of force in the history of the human race (history of the universe as far as we know). It achieves a level of training, discipline, organization, morale, combat effectiveness and general formidavlbility that makes the median Marine among the best soldiers on the planet anywhere, all backed by a logistical apparatus unrivaled by any conceivable combination…

Nah, that's only true because the US fought in accordance with the Geneva Convention. It could have easily turned the entire country to glass if it wanted to.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2022/08/what-do-we-owe-a...

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#873
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It's where we're headed _if we let these assholes get away with it_. They have the money and guns, but we have the numbers.

What is the point of numbers if there is no unity? Since Covid, there are decent successes in forming unions and collective bargaining, but it is nowhere enough. How many IT workers (as an example) have unionized or even have positive opinions on unions? A handful of guys can effectively rule large groups of people for a long period of time, if the said large group can't unite, can't help each other.

i think the answer is not unions. the answer is having the power to say NO. that means being okay with being unemployed for months, years or however long it takes, even if it's the rest of your lifetime. if everyone did that, employers wouldn't be able to get away with treating employees terribly.

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#875
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Substitute Vietnam then, if the point makes you feel better.

Same story. The problem was the US wasn't going to invade the North, and China supplying the NVA added a long tail supply chain that wasnt being touched. What you might do better to note is both of those conflicts consisted of the US invading someone else's home soil to effect change and being outlasted in terms of public interest - a public who at home were living peaceful, first world lifestyles. Everyones little c…

I don't really agree - a dedicated populous with light arms in both cases was able to ward off a full victory on their home turf, and the US caved to losses and other pressures (60k dead americans in 'nam, hundreds of thousands wounded physically, notorious trauma uncounted etc).

I don't have any sort of civil war fantasy, but I think that holding out against a military deployment in-country until it became socially and politically untenable would be pretty reasonable.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#876

Take this entire paragraph and read carefully, and it explains how to kill this trend: > “The truth is, if you want a job, you’re gonna go through this thing,” Adam Jackson, CEO and founder of Braintrust, a company that distributes AI interviewers, tells Fortune. “If there were a large portion of the job-seeking community that were wholesale rejecting this, our clients wouldn’t find the tool useful… This thing would…

Correct, and the second subtext is that every company using one of these is actually filtering for desperation, not talent. So these companies are actually screwing themselves Think about it: if you’re talented, why would you ever put up with this bullshit? I hired for my team this year and I read every single one of the hundreds of applications. HR was experimenting with an AI recommendation software which missed a…

> If you use this kind of software to hire, you are the loser. The good talent doesn’t need you—it’s the other way around.

Kinda like stack ranking for layoffs, especially when done regularly. The idea of cutting the fat always seems appealing, but it also signals things are going to get unpleasant, and top talent tends to jump ship early unless you're paying top dollar to make it all worthwhile. The ones you wanted to retain the most are the first out the door, and within a few years, the only ones left are those who don't have great prospects elsewhere, frequently with reduced output since the stress induced by the omnipresent prospect of layoffs isn't great for morale or productivity.

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> Wild take lol, I was recently unemployed and once I started facing the very real possibility that I'd have to go work at the local sawmill (or UPS) for $20/hr I was My hot take is that if you're an unemployed software dev now, it could last over a year easily, and it's way better to spend that time actually working at the sawmill or UPS if you're lucky enough to get those jobs. Work on your skills and selectively a…

Independent contract work. Form your own LLC and smooth over the employment gap on your CV.

Yep, if you can get it get it

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The self-checkout is the one that gets me. I'm paying you money for products, and you both continuously raise prices, and make it less convenient for me to shop there. That is, unless I want to order it for delivery online, and pay an extra fee. Every retailer doesn't need to be Amazon. I don't even want Amazon to be like Amazon anymore. Maybe this is me getting older, or me having worked in technology too long - but…

If you don't like the self-check out line then go to the register with the cashier. I always go to the self-check out because I can scan things faster myself.

More often than not, I’m finding the stores don’t even have a register with a cashier anymore.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#879
AI replacing human hiring managers brings to mind this quote:

“A computer can never be held accountable, Therefore a computer must never make a management decision.” - an IBM training manual 1979.

Wonder if there is grounds for rejected candidates to sue based on some kind of discrimination law? Wouldn't surprise me if someone at least tried.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#880
post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the point of numbers if there is no unity? Since Covid, there are decent successes in forming unions and collective bargaining, but it is nowhere enough. How many IT workers (as an example) have unionized or even have positive opinions on unions? A handful of guys can effectively rule large groups of people for a long period of time, if the said large group can't unite, can't help each other.

i think the answer is not unions. the answer is having the power to say NO. that means being okay with being unemployed for months, years or however long it takes, even if it's the rest of your lifetime. if everyone did that, employers wouldn't be able to get away with treating employees terribly.

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