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He may be young but it seems like he has already learnt not to be patronising and wrong.
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Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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Which PWA features did Apple and Mozilla remove on security grounds? What was Mozilla’s justification? What’s your justification for claiming they lied about it and it wasn’t for security reasons?
One touted security feature is that app store gatekeeps malware. It's praised as a killer feature of apple echosystem.
That wasn’t a response to anything I said.
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
#873Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.
"If people don't agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers)."
Is it OK to use non-Chromium browsers that send search query data or other behavioural data to Google by default
"Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web."
Let's say, hypothetically, the company behind a particular non-Chromium browser is Google's business partner and dependent on Google for its continued existence
And that Google can effectively pull the plug on this non-Chromium browser at any time for any reason
Would choosing this particular browser be a correct course of action to "hit them where it hurts"
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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> the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome History shows mere boycotts to always be abysmal failures one after another. The only few examples of ostensible outcomes were critically meaningless and necessitate zero-friction alternatives, like when bud light was encouraged to spend a bit of its marketing budget differently — wow, really showed them!! There's no detour for politics.
>like when bud light was encouraged to spend a bit of its marketing budget differently But that was the whole point. They were marketing to children. They still haven't recovered from that backlash. Anheuser-Busch took a pretty damning financial hit and it sent a message to all the other companies not to pull this kind of stunt because it's bad for business. Changing their behavior was the entire point.
The point is flying over your head. Redirecting some ad dollars is an extremely low bar; not comparable to diverting a company's profit center.
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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> the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome History shows mere boycotts to always be abysmal failures one after another. The only few examples of ostensible outcomes were critically meaningless and necessitate zero-friction alternatives, like when bud light was encouraged to spend a bit of its marketing budget differently — wow, really showed them!! There's no detour for politics.
> History shows mere boycotts to always be abysmal failures one after another The South African apartheid regime was brought down by boycotts. The Israeli genocide regime will suffer the same fate if there is any justice left in the world. Boycotts are very powerful. Users boycotting ads is dismantling the surveillance web.
Read "merely boycotts"
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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> ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). People should do this for many reasons. Monopolies are not good for anyone, including Google[0]. For most people, that means installing Firefox or using Safari. There are others, but the space is small. Don't listen to people, Firefox is perfectly good and most people wont see major differences. Truth is we like to complain. It's good to push things forward and find issues…
Safari is also not adblocker friendly. Lots of other entrants to try though. Brave in particular is great!
Brave == Chrome
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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> ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). People should do this for many reasons. Monopolies are not good for anyone, including Google[0]. For most people, that means installing Firefox or using Safari. There are others, but the space is small. Don't listen to people, Firefox is perfectly good and most people wont see major differences. Truth is we like to complain. It's good to push things forward and find issues…
> Don't listen to people, Firefox is perfectly good and most people wont see major differences. I'm sorry, but this just isn't true. I used Firefox exclusively for about a year and had a website not work about once a month. This included my state's unemployment portal and a small business store. When it happens, there's no indication of why. It's only because I'm technical I thought too try it in Chrome. My non-techn…
All I can say is that this doesn't reflect my experience. I'm not calling you a liar, just saying my experience has been different than yours.
It's definitely true I've run into errors but usually those are addon issues. Maybe I'll run into an issue a few times a year on some niche website but that's about it. But most people aren't going to those places
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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This might not qualify according to one's perspective, but: Twitch. Twitch takes a userscript to block ads. UBO Full can run userscripts, uBO Lite can't, so now you need an additional extension to run the script. Of course, if you run Tampermonkey anyway, it makes no difference.
You're reminding me, Twitch somehow got around UBO a few years ago. Oddly it was basically the only site (that I used regularly) that UBO couldn't catch. Are you saying that everyone using UBO had to add their own script to get around it? Why didn't UBO just do it?
Are you asking why a filter doesn't suffice, or why uBO doesn't automatically load the userscript?
The answer to the former is that the script swaps in a low-res replacement stream while the ad is running, which I don't think a filter can do. As to the latter, an extension automatically executing arbitrary remote userscripts supplied by third parties would be a nightmare for security.
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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Maybe more I want to have a library computer at my house that somehow doesn’t use my ISP or, to go real paranoid, even click/type the way I always do. I should already be sharing iCloud Private Relay nodes with thousands upon thousands of people. Yet: “Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the [~240k] tested in the past 45 days. Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys at…
> Maybe more I want to have a library computer at my house that somehow doesn’t use my ISP or, to go real paranoid, even click/type the way I always do. You could build this yourself with relative ease[1], just add some software in the mix to tweak the typing and cursor movements. Have the "controller" connect via mobile network, Starlink or similar if you really want to separate concerns. [1]: https://pikvm.org/diy/
Oh very interesting thank you!
Uhg making reasonable-cost investments to protect my privacy before it costs me more in other ways, what a drag. (I know myself here… need to motivate myself to at least try to do better than a cheap VPN and a private tab… will come back to this sometime)
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Also did you see the post about North Korean IT workers? Mini KVMs cited in the thread, shown in “The first time I was visited by the FBI” by ‘Level 2 Jeff’ on YT. May severely hamper my efforts to find takers on who’ll put spare laptops behind their residential IPs “but just so I can meme more privately I swear!”
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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I wish I could browse the web kinda like this but minus the human: Make Signal video call to someone in front of a laptop, provide verbal instructions on what to click on, read to my liking, and hang up to be connected with someone else next time. (EFF’s Cover Your Tracks seems to suggest fresh private tabs w/iCloud Private Relay & AdGuard is ineffective. VMs/Cloud Desktops exist but there are apparently telltale sig…
https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html section "How I use the internet" ?
Sometimes IceCat + LibreJS over Tor but primarily wget-ish software via email and into Lynx (text-based, 33 y/o browser). Wow. Thanks for sharing, didn't read enough of the page last time I saw it!
Downloading on a remote machine is great for read-only needs!