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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I agree. It seems like the goal is not reducing illegal immigration, but creating fear. This is why they’re coming after lawful residents for things like political speech.

TIL vandalism is speech

What vandalism are you referring to? I wasn’t referring to any cases where any kind of property damage occurred.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Lots of the best colleges in the world are in USA. That’s not to say some aren’t in the EU, but by numbers USA has Europe thoroughly outclassed.

It's important to note that basically all university rankings are massively, massively skewed by the native English speaking countries. Additionally, lots of UK and US universities have huge endowments which definitely helps. That's not to say that there aren't great Universities there, but really international students go to the US (and some of the EU) so that they have a better chance of working there post study.

“They come to US so they have a better chance of working in US” seems like it isn’t a counter point.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I would be very interested, thank you. The flag is probably justified since HN is not really the place for these culture war things :) but I'm genuinely trying to understand the perspective here, because it does seem like a big gap between my understanding (the Democratic party has moved left on these issues) and theirs (the Democratic party is just playing defense on these issues).

I personally wonder if people were arguing and complaining that America was moving left or failing back when racial integration was the big fight. I’m sure there were people arguing that letting non-whites drink from the same water fountains was dangerous for white women. Think about that a bit while you lament transgender people.

You're proving my point here - the original comment claimed that the left was merely defending the pre-existing, settled rights that trans people have "always" had against the right's aggression, I'm saying that the left has been actively pushing for change and new rights. I think the left sees trans rights as a continuation of the civil rights movement. This is an empirical question, entirely separate from the question of whether this is a good thing.

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If that is all the evidence presented, then under the wild new concept of “innocent until proven guilty,” yes it is.

That's never been the standard at the border. The starting assumption when crossing any[0] international border is that you don't have a right to enter the country, until you prove otherwise. People from wealthy Western countries are generally used to just waving their passports and passing through, but that is not nor has it ever been some kind of automatic right. People are questioned and denied entry all the time,…

She expected to buy a return flight back to Canada, but was instead imprisoned.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I would be very interested, thank you. The flag is probably justified since HN is not really the place for these culture war things :) but I'm genuinely trying to understand the perspective here, because it does seem like a big gap between my understanding (the Democratic party has moved left on these issues) and theirs (the Democratic party is just playing defense on these issues).

I personally wonder if people were arguing and complaining that America was moving left or failing back when racial integration was the big fight. I’m sure there were people arguing that letting non-whites drink from the same water fountains was dangerous for white women. Think about that a bit while you lament transgender people.

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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post #868

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be very interested, thank you. The flag is probably justified since HN is not really the place for these culture war things :) but I'm genuinely trying to understand the perspective here, because it does seem like a big gap between my understanding (the Democratic party has moved left on these issues) and theirs (the Democratic party is just playing defense on these issues).

I personally wonder if people were arguing and complaining that America was moving left or failing back when racial integration was the big fight. I’m sure there were people arguing that letting non-whites drink from the same water fountains was dangerous for white women. Think about that a bit while you lament transgender people.

Could you explain the racial analogy in more detail please? It's not obvious how restricting males from using female-only spaces is similar in concept or principle to racial segregation.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I have family in the US that I used to visit on a yearly basis, and as of this year I am afraid to visit them ever again. I'm an engineer with a very good income and a very stable life where I live. I would never immigrate illegally to the US to do some illegal job for scraps. And yet here we are, no one is safe. Anyone can end up in one of these hellholes.

No one is safe from putting fear in their own minds, yes. But you don't have to do that.

I'd rather not play stupid games for barely a prize worth it. With other words, I don't want US immigrations officers going through my phone, seeing a Trump critical message and throwing me into a hole for two weeks. I'd rather pick safer destinations :)

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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>There were around 140 of us in our unit. Many women had lived and worked in the US legally for years but had overstayed their visas – often after reapplying and being denied. They had all been detained without warning. Okay so, not legal then? These articles are always like this. "omg I just overstayed a little bit!!! uwu" Btw, I am European and will never hopefully have to visit the USA again.

> There was a girl from India who had overstayed her student visa for three days before heading back home. She then came back to the US on a new, valid visa to finish her master’s degree and was handed over to Ice due to the three days she had overstayed on her previous visa. Do you seriously believe that because this student technically violated the law before rectifying her paperwork, that throwing her in an overcr…

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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The work authorization meant they were there legally.

No, it just means they were awaiting a hearing, and had a temporary authorization. That's what you get when you show up to the country and say 'asylum.'

Yes, the authorization means they were... authorized.

Ergo, they were there legally.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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If this woman ever sets foot in the US again, I will have absolutely no sympathy for her.

Don't worry, a lot of us are already stopping spending money in your country. Cross-border trips to the U.S. reach COVID lows with nearly 500,000 fewer travellers in February https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cross-border-trips-decline-...

That is not "my country". I am not saying they were right, but that she would be an idiot to submit herself to their jurisdiction yet again.
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