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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Your complaint is that the iPhone is too good?

And your assertion that their business would collapse is false. You can already replace batteries through Apple and their business model hasn't collapsed. It's just not "true" enough for you so that you can end your post with a dramatic flair.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I'm not conflicted at all. All these normies pay top dollar for things they don't need or really want. But the advances are real. And now we have dual stacked oled with insane brightness. We have a supremely high end CPU gpu combo in the m3 Max CPU. Something I do care about. Basically apple was able to fund enthusiast level R&D by asking people who don't care about to pay for it. Every enthusiast should be grateful.

I have flashbacks from the time first LED screens appeared. They had lower resolution and overall quality (at least for gaming) than the CRT monitors I was using. I knew it will take time before they get on a par with CRT monitors (and overtake them since that market was basically abandoned) but wondered who will pay for all this R&D? Well, everybody did. Everybody were buying crap monitors for decades and at some point these became quite decent - at least models like Apple displays for example.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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I’m probably in the minority, but a thing I’d love to see is a much stronger flashlight. It’s silly, but the flashlight is something I use almost daily and having a more powerful one would be quite useful.

Just a data point, I have a $800 watch (Garmin Fenix 7 Pro Sapphire) that has a built in LED flashlight, including a red hue. I bought it to have backup GPS in off grid situations and for health and activity tracking, but tbh the feature I would never want to give up is the flashlight. I use it all the time and it’s, frankly, invaluable. I’m not sure if other smart watches have good flashlights, but they should. I al…

Me too! I thought it would be somewhat gimmicky but I use my Garmin flashlight all the time. For instance I was just trekking in South America and at camp while everyone else was using headlamps to get around at night, constantly shining lights in each others' eyes I could use the more subtle watch light to get up and find the toilet, etc.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

Or a folding phone? That would be huge

Only half as huge :)

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#876

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I completely agree. I've worked in tech as a coder for 27 years and I find all the features of the iPhone annoying and inhibitive. When the settings app has 8 pages of scroll, something's gone sideways. I'm running an XS Max currently.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#877

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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>If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. I was with you up to there. Do you really think that people are so lazy or stupid that they wouldn't go to any of the zillion battery replacement places (including Apple Stores) rather than buying a new $1K-$1.5K device?

Do I believe that? Absolutely. Never underestimate how lazy people are. I very commonly hear battery health as the reason for replacement. In fact, I'd say it's the most common reason heard. A 3 year old iPhone is still excellent, why else would you replace it? Besides effort, there's also trust issues. I once had a battery replacement done but the "new" one was just as bad as the old one.

Because people want a new phone and a battery that's not 100% is as good an excuse as anything. The couple times I've had a battery replacement done, I've had Apple do it. Probably worth the premium. If the battery is really the only issue--even if it's just to use the device as a backup of some sort--it's stupid not to get it done.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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When you get older, the photos aren’t for you, they’re for the descendants of you and your siblings, and their communities during funerals etc. It sounds like you needed a healthy correction from too much sharing and organizing, but just a few shots will be treasured.

I doubt that the descendants will be that interested to be honest. It's not like we today pour over the images that exist of our parents and grandparents. Having thousands upon thousands of images to look at does not make it better. It's nice to have a couple from each year maybe, but the huge amount of pics we have today is just ruining the experience and value of the pics somehow. As they are stored somewhere digit…

> It's not like we today pour over the images that exist of our parents and grandparents.

I do this. And I look over these pictures to get a sense of what their life was like. And where they lived. I found a small book of photos of my great grandfather and his family and they really made me happy to see.

We might not want to look at photos right now. But photos aren’t everyday items, they are long tail items. They are used infrequently, but when they are used, their impact is great.

Just because I don’t want something right now doesn’t mean I’ll never want it. Or that someone important to me won’t want it.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#880

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When you get older, the photos aren’t for you, they’re for the descendants of you and your siblings, and their communities during funerals etc. It sounds like you needed a healthy correction from too much sharing and organizing, but just a few shots will be treasured.

I doubt that the descendants will be that interested to be honest. It's not like we today pour over the images that exist of our parents and grandparents. Having thousands upon thousands of images to look at does not make it better. It's nice to have a couple from each year maybe, but the huge amount of pics we have today is just ruining the experience and value of the pics somehow. As they are stored somewhere digit…

i think the difference from when i grew up is that there were many baby photos of me but they were hard to find and view, you needed to go to the persons house and look through all their photos to find them.

if i look at my brothers kids, their phones will be full to the brim with 1000's of photos of them. we have whatsapp groups filled with their photos.

i wonder how interested they'll be when they're 40 to see these photos. perhaps a few, but all of them?

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