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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by rty32 »

pie420 wrote: post #532
fabian2k wrote: post #31

Doing this on a few weeks notice seems rather insane to me. Unless you have very good remote work options this is very disruptive for employees.

"very good remote work options" You realize Teams is pre-installed on like every windows machine, right? that's literally all you need for remote work. And most people agree that remote works is preferable/more more productive

You don't say that 2020-2022 proves that remote work definitely is ok for a lot of people and they want it to stay that way. And recently there have been multiple reports showing that more flexible working options help lowering attribution. Well, what a surprise. /s It is clear that CEOs force people back to office mostly to cut headcounts.

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

ricardobayes wrote: post #865
throw__away7391 wrote: post #811

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> if you make tech money It is a great tragedy that the US with all its money and diversity of geography and people has only really managed to produce a single walkable city and a scattered handful of “I don’t always use my car” neighborhoods, which are always the most expensive places to live. So many cities outside the US manage to do this on a fraction of the budget.

Everyone wants what they can't have. Europeans want to drive in cities/suburbs and Americans want to walk. People in Paris/Madrid don't really value walkability all that much. It's an increasing trend to buy bigger and bigger SUVs.

> Europeans want to drive in cities/suburbs

No, I don't. Thank you.

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Post by andsoitis »

pie420 wrote: post #532
fabian2k wrote: post #31

Doing this on a few weeks notice seems rather insane to me. Unless you have very good remote work options this is very disruptive for employees.

"very good remote work options" You realize Teams is pre-installed on like every windows machine, right? that's literally all you need for remote work. And most people agree that remote works is preferable/more more productive

> that's literally all you need for remote work.

Effective remote work is as much, if not more, a social and collaboration problem, as it is a technological problem.

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Post by rty32 »

scheme271 wrote: post #407
greenthrow wrote: post #34

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Folks with H1B visas have an undue burden on any attempt to move jobs. Also interviewing is hell for many tech folks who are extremely introverted (myself included in that last part.)

Very true although anyone on a H1B may have to file a bunch of paperwork since their job location changed. Although I suppose the paperwork is going to be more something that twitter's attorneys need to do.

H1B is nothing compared to those who need to file a new PERM due to work location change. Going to be rough.

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Post by rty32 »

pie420 wrote: post #537
thr0w wrote: post #174

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I'm imagining hordes of 20-something engineers living in the Mission with a 15 minute flat bicycle commute to the X office now having to grapple with getting to San Jose. Probably pretty rough news for a decent amount of people.

they will just work remote

Wrong thread, this is Elon's company we are talking about

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Post by highcountess »

snotrockets wrote: post #783
devoutsalsa wrote: post #685

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I used live in the Tenderloin and work in the Twitter building. My walk to work required me to be mindful of both stationary and recently minted poop in transit. This was in 2019.

That was also true in mission bay, is true in Lakeshore, and I assume other neighborhoods too. It shouldn’t be like that, but those are the priorities we (as society and electorate) decided on.

That is a quite ironic statement considering that Twitter has been an integral part of modern social engineering to reprogram people into accepting and tolerating the intolerable and unacceptable.

So here we are, at a point where people not only self-censor, they will even get violently aggressive or simply will suppress speech or even the ability to read or hear what someone has said if it diverges from the cult rules that have been imposed on our whole civilization.

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Post by kelnos »

throwaway19423 wrote: post #867
jorvi wrote: post #823

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> what they define as misbehaving is normal for kids. Right, sprinting back-and forth, ear-piercing screams at the top of their lungs, kicking chairs - all things we should just accept at a restaurant, for the sake of the parents. What terrible people we are for wanting a decent dining experience.

You were a helpless, innocent kid once too :)

When I was a kid, going to a restaurant was a treat and a privilege. If my sister or I misbehaved, we were taken out to the car, and might not get to go to a restaurant again for a while.

I see kids in restaurants these days and mostly find their behavior appalling. And it's sad the best-behaved kids are only quiet because they have an iPad in front of them. (No headphones, of course, so that's another annoyance the rest of us have to put up with.)

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Post by Elinvynia »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #714
hintymad wrote: post #495

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Very true. At least to me, a modest condo will be more than enough, as I've learned long before that tidiness brings more pleasure than large space.

I will get downvoted for this comment: Size of living area does seem to be highly influenced by gender. I hear many more men say they would be happy living in a smaller place. I never once heard that from a woman under 50. (After the kids are gone, they may wish to downsize.)

Let me be the first one then - I am fully content on living in a 40-60m2 space with my partner and two cats. Considering we never lived in anything bigger this size is perfect for us, easy to clean and still enough space to live.

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Post by elbear »

devTen85 wrote: post #803
pyeri wrote: post #781

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Here in India, it's a wide mystery why most startups prefer to headquarter in Bangalore. It made sense two decades ago but today there are several other Indian cities like Vizag, Nasik, Noida, Gurugram, Chandigarh, etc. which are more equipped, have better infrastructure and even lower cost of living. Still most folks prefer Bangalore just because it has been like that since ages and popularly called the "IT Hub". Bu…

It's a chicken & Egg problem. I run a startup in Pune, and we just don't get good developers here. We are open to remote, and most of the good candidates are in Bangalore.

What's the explanation? Better schools in Bangalore or something else?
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