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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by tjbiddle »

hbn wrote: post #830
bitcraft wrote: post #757

I might be a minority here, but I don't really consider the Android OS a feature I want. As a Remarkable 2 owner, I've come to really appreciate the long battery life and purpose built OS. There are no "app" distractions, and it has become an essential part of my daily work flow for note taking and e-book reading. I wish Daylight success, but at their price, its not a compelling offer for me.

Yeah I was surprised to see it ran Android after watching the trailer showing a lady doom-scrolling on her iPhone before accepting the warming comfort of using the Daylight. Another trailer showed happy contemporary hippies in the forest, or their modern workspace with more plants than walking space. I figured it was a breath of fresh air from modern devices because it was simpler in its capabilities. But if it's run…

Seems like something that could be solved pretty easily by having self-control and not installing those apps on the device.

Besides, I would have no interest in doom-scrolling black and white anyway. My app timers on my phone, when they switch to greyscale, I immediately lose interest on whatever it was.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by konschubert »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

> it’s exclusively manufactured by our display factory in Japan.

That is super impressive. This means you must be looking at selling big numbers?

I am running a small company that is making e-paper calendars and smart screens.

(You can check them out here: https://shop.invisible-computers.com/products/invisible-cale... )

My number one struggle is that at the low volume I am selling, my choice of screens that I can procure is extremely limited and expensive. This then also drives the price of the final product.

I guess I am kind of stuck in a local optimum (niche product) , where the other optimum is a high-volume, more mass-market product which would allow me to source a cheaper screen at higher volumes.

I am obviously super curious what kind of screen you are using and who you are sourcing it from. I totally expect that you don't want to share, but on the off chance that you want to - my email is mail@konstantinschubert.com.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by rattray »

jasonlotito wrote: post #809
rattray wrote: post #433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the kindle app not supported?

Is Kindle on Android? Yes. These are the apps they are specifically building. But all Android apps are availabe for it as well.

I mean, did they specifically check that the Kindle app works well on their OS.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by varsock »

kiliantorpey wrote: post #80
boochiboo12 wrote: post #48

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1) black & white because bayer color filter will cut your brightness by 66% 2) alas we gave up bistability for speed, so the image doesn't stay when you turn it off (however, we maybe can do quasi-bistability with this tech for watch or kindle sized future devices) 3) the pen writing feel is similar to my favorite japanese paper campus kokoyu. you could argue comparable to a remarkable or maybe even better for some 4…

Some more questions about software support. It seems the device is using android. Do you have any plan to support mainline linux kernel? It could allow the possibility to use native linux distro like PostmarketOS ( https://postmarketos.org/ ) for device longevity. Your team could also benefit from delegating some softare support effort to linux kernel team.

+1. Especially since you drew the comparison yourself to the Pebble watch. Shelling out that much money on a product that might fail is a draw back. Tinkering on this infinitely knowing I could load whatever software is attractive.

Plus I think the Linux crowd would eat up a monitor that lets users bask in the feeling of nostalgia of a terminal with limited color.

I, for one, would love to finally work outside/well lit places using g a terminal and not having to crank my brightness

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Congratulations and well done. I ordered 3 for my company (the waiting time is the only thing that sucks - I wish I could get my hands on it sooner than September).

Also, welcome to Hacker News. You will like it here.

Is there anything you need help with? What's the biggest challenge for you at the moment?

p.s. my email in my profile, if you'd like to reach out.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

alemanek wrote: post #303
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

Appreciate the appreciation and thoughtfully laid out idea!

I think we’re actually intrigued and open to build this!

What helps to know: - is 1080p ok? - what’s the minimum size you’ll be ok with ? - aspect ratio? - any other important details?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

noduerme wrote: post #428
alemanek wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…

If/when we release a bootloader unlock tool, and you can flash a custom ROM onto it, would that work for you.. be good enough?

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Post by boochiboo12 »

0x457 wrote: post #791
bloopernova wrote: post #758

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Is there such a thing as a tablet that accepts video input ? In other words, use it as a tablet, then connect a mini hdmi or whatever and it turns into a monitor. Disconnect, and it's a tablet again.

I use a hdmi capture dongle with iPad to turn it into a monitor. Not quite what you want, but as an option.

Which dongle do you use? This is the best option at the moment till we can afford a more expensive chip in the next gen that accepts hdmi in

Still on the hunt for a really good video capture / hdmi capture dongle

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by ddingus »

djmips wrote: post #268
ddingus wrote: post #246

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Still, once their display partner is ramped up, lower margin is still margin. Get it out there through Waveshare or someone similar. I have purchased and made use of several raw displays from them. All, but the big e-ink one have been great to work with. That one has some proprietary interface to unlock the real speed potential and individuals cannot sign the NDA. Grrr..

It's not that hard to start a company on paper.

Yeah, but it is a lot harder to show product potential.

Someone, somewhere will leak rev e of a certain dataset, or I will start disassembling their win demo...

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