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OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

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Post by reducesuffering »

LtWorf wrote: post #840
reducesuffering wrote: post #811

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1.5 year old GPT-4 is getting 4/5 on an AP Calculus test, better than 95% of humans. Want to guess how much better at all educational tests GPT-5 is going to be than people?

I think the kind of problems we do in italy aren't just "solve this", they are more "understand this text, then figure out what you have to solve, then solve it"

That sounds like the word problems that are on American AP Calc tests. You can be the judge of them here: https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/ap24-frq-calcul...

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Post by MacsHeadroom »

stale2002 wrote: post #790
sneak wrote: post #236

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What crimes do you think have occurred here?

Right now, there is some publicity on Twitter regarding AGI/OpenAI/EA LSD cnc parties (consent non consent/simulated rape parties). So maybe it's related to that. https://twitter.com/soniajoseph_/status/1791604177581310234

The ones going to orgies are the effective altruists / safety researchers who are leaving and not signing the non-disparagement agreement. https://x.com/youraimarketer/status/1791616629912051968

Anyway it's about not disparaging the company not about disclosing what employees do in their free time. Orgies are just parties and LSD use is hardly taboo.

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Post by huevosabio »

timr wrote: post #848
MrScruff wrote: post #829

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Clearly we don’t know when/if AGI would happen, but the expectations of many people working in the field is it will arrive in what qualifies as ‘near future’. It probably won’t result from just scaling LLMs, but then that’s why there’s a lot of researchers trying to find the next significant advancement, in parallel with others trying to commercially exploit LLMs.

The same way that the expectation of many people working within the self-driving field in 2016 was that level 5 autonomy was right around the corner. Take this stuff with a HUGE grain of salt. A lot of goofy hyperbolic people work in AI (any startup, really).

While I agree with your point, I take self driving rides on a weekly basis and you see them all over SF nowadays.

We overestimate the short term progress, but underestimate the medium, long term one.

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

Chinjut wrote: post #717
danielmarkbruce wrote: post #295

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This is common, and there is nothing wrong with it.

There is absolutely something wrong with it. Just because a thing is common doesn't make it good.

Two people entering an agreement to not talk about something is fine. You and I should (and can, with very few restrictions) be able to agree that I'll do x, and you'll do y and we are going to keep the matter private. Anyone who wants to take away this ability for two people to do such a thing needs to take a long hard look at themselves, and maybe move to north korea.

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

sleight42 wrote: post #778
sundalia wrote: post #754

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How is it serious if money is the motor of freedom of speech? The suing culture in the US ensures freedom of speech up until you bother someone with money.

Change that to "bother someone with more money than you." Essentially your point. In the US, the wealthiest have most of the freedom. The rest of us, who can be sued/fired/blackballed, are, by degrees, merely serfs.

In the US, anyone can sue. You can learn how. It's not rocket science.

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Post by punnerud »

punnerud wrote: post #846
cashsterling wrote: post #821

In my experience, and that of others I know, agreements of this kind are generally used to hide/cover-up all kinds of malfeasance. I think that agreements of this kind are highly unethical and should be illegal. Many year ago I signed a NDA/non-disparagement agreement as part of a severance package when I was fired from a startup for political reasons. I didn't want to sign it... but my family needed the money and I…

In EU all of these are mostly illegal and void, or strictly limited. You have to pay a good salary for the whole duration (up to two years), and let the employer know months before them leave. Almost right after they are fired. Sound like a better solution?

I see that this commend jump up and down between 5 and 10 points. Guess a lot of up and downvotes.

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Post by wwweston »

staunton wrote: post #847
cashsterling wrote: post #821

In my experience, and that of others I know, agreements of this kind are generally used to hide/cover-up all kinds of malfeasance. I think that agreements of this kind are highly unethical and should be illegal. Many year ago I signed a NDA/non-disparagement agreement as part of a severance package when I was fired from a startup for political reasons. I didn't want to sign it... but my family needed the money and I…

> this is turning into huge power/money grab The power grab happened a while ago (the shenanigans concerning the board) and is now complete. Care for humanity was just marketing or a cute thought at best. Maybe humanity will survive life long enough that a company "caring about humanity" becomes possible, I'm not saying it's not worth trying or aspiring to such ideals, but everyone should be extremely surprised if an…

The system already has been a superorganism/AI for a long time:

http://omniorthogonal.blogspot.com/2013/02/hostile-ai-youre-...

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Post by pseudalopex »

WalterSear wrote: post #749
kaycebasques wrote: post #583

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Are you saying that Altman has family that did business in South African emerald mines? I can't find info about this

They are referring to Elon Musk.

Saying the other suggested there were 2.
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