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"The M4 is so fast, it'll probably finish your Final Cut export before you accidentally switch apps and remember that that cancels the export entirely. That's the amazing power performance lead that Apple Silicon provides." #AppleEvent https://mastodon.social/@tolmasky/112400245162436195

This is a straight-up lie, yes? Switching apps doesn't cancel the export.

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Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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I wonder if BYOE (bring your own electricity) also plays a part in their long term vision? Data centres are expensive in terms of hardware, staffing and energy. Externalising this cost to customers saves money, but also helps to paint a green(washing) narrative. It's more meaningful to more people to say they've cut their energy consumption by x than to say they have a better server obselesence strategy, for example.

I’m not sure it’s that (benched pointed out their carbon commitment) as simple logistics. Apple doesn’t have to build the data centers. Apple doesn’t have to buy the AI capacity themselves (even if from TSMC for Apple designed chips). Apple doesn’t have to have the personnel for the data centers or the air conditioning. They don’t have to pay for all the network bandwidth. There are benefits to the user to having the…

I agree with everything you said but the TSMC bit. They are quite literally competing with NVidia et al for fab space for customers chips. Sure they get the AI bits built-in to existing products but surely they’re bigger/more expensive to manufacture and commit from TSMC because of it.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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Why are we running these high end CPUs on tablets without the ability to run pro apps like Xcode? Until I can run Xcode on an iPad (not Swift Playgrounds), it's a pass for me. Hear me out: I don't want to bring both an iPad and Macbook on trips, but I need Xcode. Because of this, I have to pick the Macbook every time. I want an iPad, but the iPad doesn't want me.

Visual studio code running from remote servers seemed like it was making great progress right until the AI trendiness thing took over... and hasn't seemed to advance much since. Hopefully the AI thing cools down and the efforts on remote tooling/dev environments continues onwards.

AI? You mean like copilot and stuff? That runs locally?

Otherwise why would it be an obstacle here?

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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Why does this feel like it was hastily added at the last minute? Developing a chip like the M4 presumably takes years, so hastily incorporating 'AI' to meet the hype and demand could inevitably lead to problems.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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post #143

"The M4 is so fast, it'll probably finish your Final Cut export before you accidentally switch apps and remember that that cancels the export entirely. That's the amazing power performance lead that Apple Silicon provides." #AppleEvent https://mastodon.social/@tolmasky/112400245162436195

This is a straight-up lie, yes? Switching apps doesn't cancel the export.

The export progress dialog says "Keep Final Cut Pro open until the export is complete", and the standard iPadOS limitations are that background tasks are killed after either 10 minutes or when some foreground app wants more RAM. So it it's not instantly cancelled but it's a precarious workflow compared to on a Mac.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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Why does this feel like it was hastily added at the last minute? Developing a chip like the M4 presumably takes years, so hastily incorporating 'AI' to meet the hype and demand could inevitably lead to problems.

Apple has had "Neural Engine" hardware in their SOCs since 2017, and have been building its capabilities every generation.

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So is the iPad mini abandoned due to the profit margins being too small or what? I wish they'd just make it clear so I could upgrade without worrying a mini replacement will come out right after I buy something. And I don't really understand why there are so many different iPads now (Air/Pro/Standard). It just feels like Apple is slowly becoming like Dell... offer a bunch of SKUs and barely differentiated products. I…

They refresh it like every 3 years

Pretty much, yeah https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPad_Mini
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