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Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Post by dicknuckle »

brenns10 wrote: post #234

Reminds me of SBF calling for crypto regulations while running FTX. Being seen as friendly to regulations is great for optics compared to being belligerently anti-regulation. You can appear responsible and benevolent, and get more opportunity to weaken regulation by controlling more of the narrative. And hey, if you get end up getting some regulatory capture making competition harder, that's a great benefit too. Open…

I've been seeing almost weekly posts recently like "I just got out of a meeting where my company plans to replace X people with an AI that does their job for $XX/mo"

The fearmongering and astroturfing is obvious.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Post by dumpsterlid »

code_witch_sam wrote: post #730
explorer83 wrote: post #696

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Is military capable AI in the hands of few militaries safer than in the hands of many? Or is it more likely to be used to bully other countries who don't have it? If it is used to oppress, would we want the oppressed have access to it? Or do we fear that it gives too much advantage to small cells of extremist to carry out their goals? I can think of pros and cons to both sides.

>Is military capable AI in the hands of few militaries safer than in the hands of many? Yes. It is. I'm sure hostile, authoritarian states that are willing to wage war with the world like Russia and North Korea will eventually get their hands on military-grade AI. But the free world should always strive to be two steps ahead. Even having ubiquitous semi-automatic rifles is a huge problem in America. I'm sure Cliven B…

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Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Post by runarberg »

candiodari wrote: post #857
runarberg wrote: post #499

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If AI is to be a consumer good—which it already is—it needs to be regulated, at the very least to ensure equal quality to a diverse set of customers and other users. Unregulated there is high risk of people being affected by e.g. employers and landlords using AI to discriminate. Or you being sold an AI solution which isn’t as advertised. If AI will be used by public institutions, especially law enforcement, we need i…

AI is being used as a consumer good, including to discriminate: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/maximise-profits-facial-... AI is being used by law enforcement and public institutions. In fact so much that perhaps this is a good link: https://www.monster.com/jobs/search?q=artificial+intelligenc... In both cases it's too late to do anything about it. AI is "loose". Oh and I don't know if you noticed, governments h…

Post hoc consumer protection is actually quite common. Just think how long after cars entered the marked before they were regulated. Now we have fuel standards, led bans, seat belts, crash tests etc. Even today we are still adding consumer protection to stuff like airline travels and medicine, even though commercial airliners and laboratory made drugs have been around for almost a century.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Post by lannisterstark »

DebtDeflation wrote: post #124
bilekas wrote: post #16

This is so stupid its exactly what you would expect in congress. If this was to go through, of course OpenAI and co will be the primary lobbiests to ensure they get to define the filters for such a license. Also how would you even enforce this. It's absolute nonsense and is a clear indicator that these larger companies realize there is no 'gatekeeping' these AI's, that the democratization of models has demonstrated i…

Yeah. Regulation is fine, if thoughtfully done. "Licensing" is ridiculous. We all know the intent - OpenAI gets the first license along with a significant say in who else gets a license. No thanks.

Problem is that regulation is rarely thoughtfully done. It's almost always a knee jerk response to the new thing.

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Post by turtleyacht »

samstave wrote: post #711
brookst wrote: post #680

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I'm not following this "good ideas must come from an ideologically pure source" thing. Shouldn't we be evaluating ideas on the merits and not categorically rejecting (or endorsing) them based on who said them?

Aside from who is saying them, the premise holds water. AI is beyond-borders, and thus unenforceable in practicality. The top-minds-of-AI are a group that cannot be regulated. - AI isnt about the industries it shall disrupt ; AI is the policy-makers it will expose. THAT is what they are afraid of. -- I have been able to do financial lenses into organizations that even with rudimentary BI would have taken me months/we…

Which anime(s)? If ANIME is the title, that's going to be hard to search.

Do you mean like Serial Experiments Lain?

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Post by nullsense »

api wrote: post #831
SkyMarshal wrote: post #695

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> To expound, this just seems like a power grab to me, to "lock in" the lead and keep AI controlled by a small number of corporations that can afford to license and operate the technologies. If you actually watch the entire session, Altman does address that and recommend to Congress that regulations 1) not be applied to small startups, individual researchers, or open source, and 2) that they not be done in such a way…

That would make the regulations fairly pointless unless you think only mega-corps will ever be able to afford the compute for these things. Compute continues to get cheaper and cheaper. We have not hit the physics wall yet on that. That and if someone cracks efficient distributed training in a swarm type configuration then you could train models Seti@Home style. Lots of people would be happy to leave a gaming PC on t…

The other day someone offered up their 200x GPU crypto mining cluster to train uncensored models after the incident on HuggingFace where someone threatened to get the uploader of the uncensored models fired citing safety issues.

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Post by srslack »

brenns10 wrote: post #234

Reminds me of SBF calling for crypto regulations while running FTX. Being seen as friendly to regulations is great for optics compared to being belligerently anti-regulation. You can appear responsible and benevolent, and get more opportunity to weaken regulation by controlling more of the narrative. And hey, if you get end up getting some regulatory capture making competition harder, that's a great benefit too. Open…

It's all pretty much the same less wrong-effective altruist-crypto grifter-San Francisco sex cult community. sama still grifting with worldcoin, and even before this.
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