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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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austinl wrote: post #869
cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

I've lived in SF for almost 10 years, and it saddens me to live in such low trust community because of all the crime. It changes people. I've had my car stolen once and broken into several times. I've had two bikes stolen, once out of an office building, and another time through an iron gate that blocks my doorway. My neighbor had his motorcycle stolen out of his garage. I've caught someone stealing packages from a b…

>All I want is a candidate to run the platform of simply enforcing the law—it's baffling to me how controversial that is. Perhaps we'll get the right catalyst for that to happen someday.

And this is what gives a chance for extremist to flourish. For some reasons, US politics has no centre, it’s always far away from the axis. I think it’s time to have a “Balance Party” in the US :)

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by throwaway292939 »

jytechdevops wrote: post #723
gsibble wrote: post #695

Bob was a good friend, tried to hire me numerous tries at Square, and was my next door neighbor for 3 years. I knew him well and spent a lot of time with him. He will be dearly missed. I have been told from very well placed sources in the US Intelligence community this is probably a hit. That being said, I left San Francisco in 2018 because I was worried I would eventually become the random murder that would finally…

> I have been told from very well placed sources in the US Intelligence community this is probably a hit do you realize how specifically you have to know the right person for an individual in the intel community to even remotely come close to knowing anything similar to this? not only are there over 100,000 that technically "work" in the intel community. 95% of those are not even in operations. even 5% of those in th…

Not saying you're wrong to be doubtful, but I would imagine being connected in the same locality would get you closer to "the right person"

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by throwaway292939 »

clsec wrote: post #483
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

>Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent Interesting that you say this after our progressive DA was recalled & our mayor is trying to supplement the SFPD budget by $27.6M. Also interesting, I have lived in SF since 1972 and only been mugged once, in my 1st yr there (I was 7 & mugged by kids across the street in the projects for my Mickey M watch and about $0.50). I will freel…

> Interesting that you say this after our progressive DA was recalled & our mayor is trying to supplement the SFPD budget by $27.6M.

Not commenting on the current DA's performance yet, but even "good changes" take time. SF didn't get this way overnight.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by s1artibartfast »

colpabar wrote: post #853
huevosabio wrote: post #778

I come from Ciudad Juarez. Between 2008-2011, the city was the murder capital in the world and basically unlivable. My brother and I were no longer living there because we were in college. My parents decided to send my sister, then starting highschool, to a city in central Mexico with friends of the family to avoid having her grow up in what was a life and death environment. My parents stayed. Mexicans speak a lot ab…

So what would you say to the argument that the police are already too violent, and that too many people already get put in jail, especially minorities? That is the motivation behind the progressive policies of not prosecuting criminals. Every person not prosecuted is one less crime statistic; bonus points if that person-kept-out-of-jail is a minority. I want to be absolutely clear - I am in no way suggesting minoriti…

I would say that those are not reasons to embrace a lawless society.

If the laws are bad, fix them. If the police are too brutal, curtail them.

This is the only path towards with a healthy society. This isn't always easy, and sometimes it seems impossible. However, sanctioning lawlessness and giving up on reform is no solution. It is a race to the bottom, and hurts minorities even more. If you think building towards equality is hard, imagine how much harder it is when theft, rape, and murder is rampant in your community.

This is represented in the opinions and surveys of minority communities. People want less bias and police brutality, but they also want more police on the streets and more enforcement of laws.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by baby »

cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

I’m in process of leaving SF. As someone who has lived all over the world, what a mismanaged town. That being said, I think SF ended up this way not only due to that, but also due to national issues. Lack of safety nets, lack of healthcare, lack of worker rights, etc.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by yieldcrv »

Would anybody be willing to entertain the idea that he was a whistleblower to the Hindenburg short seller report against Square/Block that indicts CashApp, or that there is any link?

Something aside from “random degeneracy and vagrancy in SF with no leads”?

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by xvector »

I'm so sick of crime in the Bay. We need to be way tougher on crime. Immediate life sentences without parole for murder, ending catch+release for property theft.

The mere thought of stealing, or attacking a stranger, or dealing drugs illegally, must become so unappetizing that they simply refuse to do it even when they have no other options.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by throwaway292939 »

martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

Just a few notes I quickly thought of:

- SF has policies that encourages homeless to emigrate there, one of which is being pretty lenient to anyone who sets up camp on the streets

- SF allows open drug markets that has become a hotbed of criminal activity

- Police aren't fully empowered, and many people because of their ideology tend to hate police

- Lots of catch and release going on, both anecdotally and on news

- They offer drug kits (think needles, pipes, and other tools). The kit looked to be worth around $100

- They gave free alcohol/marijuana to homeless during lockdown

- A large subset of the population seem to give no shits about the city or other people: public urination, defecation, harassment, drug use, property theft, vandalism is common. The lack of enforcement has allowed these activities to increase

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by dingosity »

lol. dude provides "data" for the first part of this year and one year previous. Notes there's an increase and blames the city for Lee's murder. If you go back several years, you'll see that the recent past is about the same (around 6 murders per 100,000). Turns out that 2022 had a lower than average # of murders in the first three months of 2022. In 2007, the murder rate was twice what it was in the last several years.

So I guess Mr. Leahy is getting good use of his "Statistical Cherry Picking for Dummies" book.

Apparently murder is not a problem until a member of the rentier class is affected.

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