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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by louwrentius »

orangecat wrote: post #866
louwrentius wrote: post #831

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Narator: it is true https://www.cbs19news.com/story/34248451/6-in-10-americans-d...

I've seen many articles like that, and they conveniently never show the actual question that was asked. If I had an unexpected expense I'd probably put it on my credit card just for convenience, and then pay it off at the end of the billing cycle incurring no additional fees. But it would be silly to include me in the category of not being able to afford it. In reality, even most people in the bottom 20% of income ha…

You are 'debating' in bad-faith and you know it. Always moving the goalposts, changing the narrative, inventing stories so they have excuses to wave the facts away.

Bye!

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by [deleted] »

csharpminor wrote: post #392
toomuchtodo wrote: post #228

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I'd be interested what the financial analysis looks like leasing or owning hubs vs a cadence of offsites annually remote first orgs usually hold, considering meeting space + hoteling for staff during the meet. I'll chip in for this analysis and blog post!

Most employers provision ~100sq/ft per employee. In SF real estate goes for $50-$70 per sq/ft per month. Obviously there’s negotiating that happens. You could do a lot of travel with a 5-7k budget per month. There are a ton of variables- agree more analysis is needed.

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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by Philadelphia »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #664
oblio wrote: post #581

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People keep saying that. Humans don't work like that. Almost all meaningful relations are based on prolonged proximity.

I am not sure why you would say that. I mean it is true, but I am not sure how it is relevant here. If one avenue is not there, ones that crave it badly enough will venture forth. If I don't go to work and WANT to engage with others so badly, I will. And besides, meaningful relations is a meaningless term. Example. My parent has neighbors. They have lived closely to one another. So closely and long, in fact, they had…

If your health limits your active hours to barely more than you can work, you won’t. In that case, you get very lonely, from my experience.

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Post by dang »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #47
xpe wrote: post #38

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Worse than losing your job?

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We've asked you more than once before not to post flamebait comments to HN. If you keep doing it, we're going to have to ban you. I don't want to ban you, so please don't post like this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by louwrentius »

andrew_ wrote: post #853
louwrentius wrote: post #833

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N=1 anekdote doesn’t count. Personal experience doesn’t count large population stats count and it’s not looking good for large swats of people. But I have it good so the system works! Yea sure, it’s really anout you. The selfishness, the lack of care for others is so ingrained. If the majority of your country is dirt poor and has to work multiple jobs the system clearly doesn’t work.

> N=1 anekdote doesn’t count. Personal experience doesn’t count large population stats count and it’s not looking good for large swats of people. Congratulations, Comrade. By your own logic, your original post must then be dismissed. Glory to the Soviet Science!

Can you point out specifically how I contradict my own post, bet you can’t. And the Soviet Union is not my role model.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by roflyear »

h1srf wrote: post #530
roflyear wrote: post #391

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What mechanism allowed that? From what I recall corporate bond rates were low but not no cost low. Bank rates maybe were like a few percent but infinity money?

If you were MSFT or AAPL, you could issue 0%(or close to it) bonds and investors would lap it up. IIRC AAPL did issue a 0% bond at some point in the last few years.

In Europe, not in the US, as far as I can tell. Looks like the lowest Apple got to go was 2.2ish in the US.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by grepfru_it »

bato wrote: post #805
grepfru_it wrote: post #299

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I wonder why they are not talking about the elephant in the room, the AWS spend. Cut back on that and these layoffs probably aren't necessary. The problem is the sheer size of GitHub data and the unreliability of Azure. There is an entire datacenter that is unused because data locality severely limits performance.

Pretty much all new features from acquisition news are on azure (packages, codespaces etc). Which is why outages usually match Azure outages.

Hello fellow hubber? We still deploy new services using AWS or our own internal datacenters. Projects, for instance, is still run on k8s, not AKS. AE development was complicated from the start due to azure capacity, so much so that a tiger team went back to building it from scratch without azure.

Our AWS spending is outrageous tbh

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by grepfru_it »

umeshunni wrote: post #409
grepfru_it wrote: post #299

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I wonder why they are not talking about the elephant in the room, the AWS spend. Cut back on that and these layoffs probably aren't necessary. The problem is the sheer size of GitHub data and the unreliability of Azure. There is an entire datacenter that is unused because data locality severely limits performance.

Moving from AWS to Azure is an order of orders of magnitude harder than moving from Zoom to Teams.

My complaint is that MSFT had 3 years to focus on this problem and the solution today is to let go of engineers rather than prioritize minimizing costs (i guess in a way they did). There were EC2 snapshots dating back to 2013 when I last checked. Bad management gonna be bad

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puckerup44 wrote: post #775
acheron wrote: post #770

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Being social is fine. That’s what I have real friends for. I don’t need pretend friends at work.

I always see this parroted by people on HN and it's such a pathetic stance to take. Every job I've been at I've formed close friends. My closest friends include people from every job and I don't think it's a coincidence. These friendships are just as real (and I'd argue stronger) than your "real" friends. Maybe the problem is with you and you are just somebody people don't like? Or you think you shouldn't be making f…

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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by readwriterick »

Myrmornis wrote: post #729
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #238

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Gmail is so much better than outlook it's honestly insane. The way it handles email chains is infinitely better than outlooks, which often leads to responses just getting lost when someone replies all to a message that wasn't the most recent. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this is 'our' fault, as I'm sure someone will point out. But in the years of using Gmail at my last employer, it just worked.

I would honestly like to know more about how to make it handle email chains. My work is happily quite email free but recently I've been involved with a company in my private life and I'm finding the email chains in Gmail incomprehensible -- the old emails aren't folded; I seem to have to scroll past millions of copies of the same email signatures with images in the signatures, as well as tons of quoted text from rand…

No, this is not normal in my experience using only gmail for all my companies for about a decade.
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