Fixed everything they've broken in the past 5 years then added a notch... They haven't had a perfect machine in years, and the trend continues.
MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
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#872it has a notch
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#873Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Both 14" and 16" have 254 PPI, up from ~220 Which also means they finally support more screen real estate at native 2x! Since 2016 the 13" MacBooks retained their 2560x1600 panels but shipped by default in a "looks like 1440x900" mode, which renders a 2880x1800 frame and does a non-integer scale down to the panel's native resolution, trading sharpness for extra space. I hate the slight fuzzy look so I run mine at n…
I have always been utterly baffled by Apple’s approach to high DPI. They ship some of the best panels around, and then they kneecap them by using the most idiotic scaling scheme imaginable that guarantees that it’s worse than a low resolution panel for some tasks that want precision and uglier on things like single pixel lines which crop up a lot in e.g. web content, because pixel precision is impossible . Microsoft…
This doesn't gel with my experience at all. Yes, past MacBooks weren't necessarily integer scaling (with this new display the default setting and what most people use will be though as far as I understand), and non-integer scaling is not ideal. But on my last two MacBooks at least the screen is visually plenty sharp, and looks way, way, better than the regular-DPI external monitors I still have (whether the external monitor is connected to the Mac or a Windows PC). And above all, my experience with Mac is that high-DPI has actually worked from the beginning, whereas on Windows I still have some apps that break if the scaling is not set to 100%!
Even right at the start, old apps would look a bit blurry but would still at least be in the correct proportions on macOS, whereas with the Windows scaling a lot of stuff just wouldn't work!
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#874Kills the touch bar, the light touch keyboard, adds back weight, card reader, ports and the mag safe. Feels like an apology for prior design decisions. My 2011 MBP is new again!
I have owned macbooks only since 2017 and found the older (2011 era) aesthetic design to be bulky and not too appealing. I own a 2020 model, which looks sharp and professional. I don't like them going back to this rounded edges on the bottom. I love everything else, except this simple gripe over aesthetics.
> I have owned macbooks only since 2017 and found the older (2011 era) aesthetic design to be bulky and not too appealing. I own a 2020 model, which looks sharp and professional.
There used to be a time when what people considered “professional hardware” was versatility and durability over pure aesthetics. I’m not saying we can’t have both form and function with professional grade hardware but with the later iterations of the MBP Apple have put form ahead of function and then trained an entire generation of developers to look at hardware superficially. I honestly weep for the industry if this is the path we are destined to continue down.
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#875Does anyone have a handle on how the new M1X is expected to perform on Deep Learning training runs vs a NVIDIA 1080Ti / 2080Ti. I think the 400 Gbps bandwidth and 64 GB unified memory will help - but can anyone extrapolate based on the M1 ?
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#876The notch is the most stupid feature. The stupid touch bar is gone but here you must swallow this. Apple just likes to screw you one way or the other.
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#877It's refreshing to see them actually listening to customer feedback, I don't think this ever would've happened in a Jobs/Ive world. Would they have released "pro" focused M1 chips/laptops? Absolutely. Would they have gone back on the (IMO) trainwreck that was touchbar and removing everything but 2x USB-C ports? No way. ALSO, I'm actually kind of shocked they're supporting charging by both USB-C and magsafe. That is 1…
Obligatory reminder that Apple killed the miniDIN-8 and ADB ports on the original iMac before almost anyone had ever seen a USB cable in real life.
They sold the notion of charging off your monitor cable pretty hard, there’s no way they could go back on that.
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#878HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
Agree- I have been largely disappointed by USB-C. It's been okay as a smaller USB-A replacement for flash drives and mice, but in general the lesson of USB-C is: just because it fits, doesn't mean it works. My personal favorite annoyance is how chargers and cables are advertised with the wattage they support, but it's really the voltage and current that matters. If you have a device that wants 20W as 9V/2.22A , your…
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If you have a device that wants 20W as 9V/2.22A , your 30W charger may not support that specific combination and will charge much slower than a 20W charger that does.
Such a charger would be not specifications compliant. Don't blame the specs for what the manufacturers did with it.
Oh and don't get me wrong: there are a lot of problems with USB C mostly with the complete impossibility of knowing what the heck a USB C port is actually capable of. Is it Thunderbolt capable? if not, DisplayPort alternate mode capable? Can you charge the device over it? If yes, what's the maximum wattage.
This will ease finally because Microsoft will require PCIe tunneling on all C ports for the device to be Windows 11 certified so there won't really be different USB 4 ports -- except for charging wattage... https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/hlk/t...
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#879And here I am with my Lenovo S10-3 still doing fine in 2021. My use case is if I can produce something fast with this machine then half of the battle has already been won because by default I need to optimize for the lowest possible spec of my target market. Obviously, I know this won't apply to everyone but anyway I hope this will continue for me a couple more years.
The idea pad? Is it your main computer? I have an S10-2 I bought for installing a transflective display, and I can’t imagine using it for much more than noodling around with. I just wish it was just slightly larger to accommodate a decent keyboard and a slim battery.
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#880These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…
The Pro is faster than a laptop 3050Ti [1]. The Max is slightly slower than a laptop 3080 (looks like 8%). [2] Relative performance is somewhat meaningless, and of course also depends on what features where being used. However, my M1 Air compared extremely favorably against similarly priced PC offerings, and I expect my 16" M1 Max will compare favorably with a 3070. [1] https://live.arstechnica.com/apple-october-18-u…
We don’t know what those tests are really measuring. Is it a game? Or some video production workflow? And what about features like ray tracing? Does the M1 Max support all the same technologies? Apple’s benchmarks seem purposely obfuscated.