My Microsoft desktop restarts itself overnight to install updates no matter what registry settings I change.
I’ve lost a lot of work this way.
Later this year, I will buy the 2021 Macbook, and put Linux on the desktop. I can’t wait!
Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
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I had a backpack melt because of this. There is a hole through and through, about the size of a half dollar.
Can I bribe you for a photo of it? That’s amazing.
Sure, Ill charge my camera now and post after lunch. Looking at that backpack now, I'm noticing the hole is far larger than a half dollar. It's about 6 inches.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
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If you create a swap partition manually during installation and there's no secure boot, Fedora will put the "resume=" parameter into your grub config automatically.
You still need to create `/etc/dracut.conf.d/resume.conf` with `add_dracutmodules+=" resume "` line and regenerate initramfs with `dracut -f`. Then it should work.
I don’t really think that hubernating is worth it when you have gobs of RAM and a lot of data and state in it. The sheer time it’s going to take each time even with an NVMe drive, blergh.
Now that batteries are decent and S3 on Linux is good, I don’t bother with anything else. I reboot/power off my machines on a regular basis to make sure the things I need persisted are, in fact, persisted and everything will be brought up again.
So I was quite surprised to find resume= pointing to my swap partition in my /proc/cmdline after a default install.
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A machine doing something I didn't tell it to is insane. I am the user. I use the machine, not the other way around.
If you insisted on telling the machine to do everything it does, you'd get nothing done. I suppose you could use an abacus.
Expecting a computer to not do random insane unexpected shit is too much to ask for I guess?
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I mean, I know it's too late to help you, but running "powercfg.exe /lastwake" after a windows computer wakes from standby will tell you exactly what woke it up, if it knows. I've never had it return with "unknown" once in over a decade, but some people I know have. if you can find all the things waking the computer, and fix those things, it will never wake without user intervention. usually, for me, it's been device…
And people say Linux is the difficult OS.
This stuff previously worked correctly on windows 7, I guess they saw things like spotty headphone jack detection, 100% CPU fan blasting while lid closed, etc. and thought it was a good idea to copy it.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
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Put it behind a UPS and buy one of their smart plugs. It'll detect internet outages and reset the connected device automatically. Also, I buy and deploy a lot of Unifi/ER equipment and that doesn't happen. I think you've noticed there's a common factor in your final statement, though.
it is a bit messed up that you think it's me. I change configs on these things only enough to get them to function, and then I leave them alone. and what exactly could I be doing to cause random DNS failures, or to cause DHCP to fail only on Ethernet ports? these things can't be configured to do that. they're consumer-grade routers and consumer-grade routers are garbage. all of them. every enterprise router or access…
I know it's just an anecdote, but I've always had issues buying(very expensive) home routers from netgear or Linksys, super unreliable devices no matter the price - finally gave up and just started using my ISP provided router(BT whatever hub, latest one) - zero issues. Rock solid WiFi and ethernet. I can see the uptime on it right now is over 100 days and I have no reason to restart it. Yes it's not quite as configurable as some of the other routers I've had but at least it just works.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
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If you insisted on telling the machine to do everything it does, you'd get nothing done. I suppose you could use an abacus.
Expecting a computer to not do random insane unexpected shit is too much to ask for I guess?
That depends entirely on what you consider insane. MacOS for example does so many things that I consider utterly batshit insane, but here we are. Lots of people love it. It's a given that a consumer operating system will do many, many things without direct user input.
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It's not just Microsoft's fault. Intel have completely removed S3 sleep from the latest Tigerlake chips so even if you run Linux you end up with the same problem.
S3 is an ACPI concept, not a hardware one.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#879Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#880Earlier quoted context omitted.
it is a bit messed up that you think it's me. I change configs on these things only enough to get them to function, and then I leave them alone. and what exactly could I be doing to cause random DNS failures, or to cause DHCP to fail only on Ethernet ports? these things can't be configured to do that. they're consumer-grade routers and consumer-grade routers are garbage. all of them. every enterprise router or access…
I know it's just an anecdote, but I've always had issues buying(very expensive) home routers from netgear or Linksys, super unreliable devices no matter the price - finally gave up and just started using my ISP provided router(BT whatever hub, latest one) - zero issues. Rock solid WiFi and ethernet. I can see the uptime on it right now is over 100 days and I have no reason to restart it. Yes it's not quite as configu…
I'm glad you're pleased, although I know that's also a relative experience. I recently helped a colleague using Free[1] in France and was blown away by... pretty much all of it.
He was paying €15/mo for 4K television plus 1/0.6Gbit fiber internet on custom hardware they'd provided. I can't help but feel something went terribly wrong in the US for us to be happy with our $80/mo cable options and dated, generic hardware.