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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by lawn »

jachee wrote: post #765
sonicggg wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a great opportunity for another player to step in and fill the vacuum, given that OnlyFans already proved there's a market for this. Just like Vine vs TikTok. Also, weird that they would give up an entire market because of prude payment providers. Are these providers from Afghanistan? They should not have that much power over their customers. Maybe a crypto spin off could work.

Anyone who does will face the same pressure from payout vendors. No one corporate wants to be actively involved in paying sex workers.

Just use cryptocurrencies.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by iab »

imwillofficial wrote: post #855
Cullinet wrote: post #725

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking of the wider insanity to create a economy so large as to almost acquire Web Scale, but only for a financial customer base of individuals who are lacking in the necessary skills and knowledge and motivation and experience to organise themselves into the pressure groups you absolutely have to have prepared to defend your business in the morality courts of post WWII America. Larry Flynt had his work cut out…

You used many words and said nothing.

Its the inverse of the "Kevin from the office" meme

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by ggggtez »

skrtskrt wrote: post #94

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

I feel like Tumblr was actually growing when they made they change (which promptly killed their growth). I don't see how Only Fans is going to remain solvent without their core creators.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by ggggtez »

wrycoder wrote: post #842
wonderwonder wrote: post #533

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I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).

Bait and switch. Even if they lose the bulk of their customers, they will still have a bigger network than if they had started with the same platform, but without the porn.

That hasn't really worked in practice. I think of Tumblr which basically stopped all growth and innovation the moment they banned porn.

The company is probably assuming they can pivot, and maybe they can, but I doubt it

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by manquer »

cphoover wrote: post #836
bjowen wrote: post #824

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The dispute rate is certainly true for companies under the general umbrella of “subscription services”, usually meaning porn / webcam sites, and there are trigger points where the payment processor will switch off a facility that exceeds a certain dispute volume. OF has been increasingly making use of step-up authentication to avoid disputes, which is the way the non-US payments industry is heading. My guess would be…

Why? Why can't they use stripe identity verification https://stripe.com/identity to verify age/consent of user's who upload adult content?

The person uploading may or may not be in the video, or the other participants could be under age. Figuring out the age of people in a video is lot harder.

Also stripe identity really works for US users the most , with a global audience like OnlyFans that could be limiting as well

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

skrtskrt wrote: post #94

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

I read that sex-workers have lost their livelihood during the pandemic due to lockdowns and have become more vulnerable. Then I read the interview of Aella, A OnlyFans creator making 5-figures on IndieHackers[1].

I always felt porn was an exploitative business so was never into it, But I gained respect for OnlyFans as a platform because it enabled people to move from dangerous, risky work to relatively safe work. As with any content platform, I understand that only perhaps top 5% might make sustainable business out of it but still it's a choice available.

Now they've blown it, In order to chase after scale OnlyFans has decided to sacrifice their original customers. Fans of those music artists who are supposedly joining now should inform them that OnlyFans is robbing the livelihood and would be pushing many back to dangerous physical-sex work.

[1] https://www.indiehackers.com/podcast/211-aella-savannah-solo

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by fellellor »

hackinthebochs wrote: post #746
belter wrote: post #515

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This is the least of their problems and I am amazed none of their executives is not yet in jail: "The children selling explicit videos on OnlyFans" https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57255983

No verification will be bulletproof, and persistent people will occasionally get around it. I'm not sure what responsibility OnlyFans has beyond taking reasonable measures to prevent circumventing verification. The article mentions someone using their older sister's license as verification. Presumably they look similar. And that's somehow OnlyFan's fault? There's no reason why the executives would have any sort of pe…

In the case of child pornography the law - in many countries - explicitly makes it the platforms responsibility.

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Post by jazzyjackson »

Cullinet wrote: post #725
skrtskrt wrote: post #94

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

I'm thinking of the wider insanity to create a economy so large as to almost acquire Web Scale, but only for a financial customer base of individuals who are lacking in the necessary skills and knowledge and motivation and experience to organise themselves into the pressure groups you absolutely have to have prepared to defend your business in the morality courts of post WWII America. Larry Flynt had his work cut out…

Is this a Markov chain or something?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by joshxyz »

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330
yholio wrote: post #279

I can understand the business reasons for cleaning up the OnlyFans brand. But I can't, for the life of me, understand why they are killing a cash cow instead of spining it off into a side business. Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depe…

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

that actually opens up a market for a new payment processor that is capable of dealing with these kind of payments. i honestly wonder if onlyfans explored and exhausted that route thoroughly
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