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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#871
I wonder if they fixed the trackpad? The previous trackpad's palm rejection never worked properly.

It always surprised me how broken the palm rejection was on the recent MacBook Pro since previous models (2012-2015) running the same macOS version had no such issues; moreover, palm rejection also works fine on the iPad and iPhone.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#872
post #268

Am I the only one that is scared at the prospect of losing physical keys for changing volume and brightness? I do this all the time, changing volume up/down during conference calls, adjusting the brightness when working late at night. Can you even map the Touch-bar to have "keys" for these instead of the slider which seems way less precise and direct? Genuinely asking since I'm still on 2014 MBP.

I'm completely with you. I have the older TouchBar model and every time I use the external Apple keyboard I am so much happier with the physical brightness, music controls and changing volume keys.

For me I'd actually pay to have a model without TouchBar (but with TouchID, which actually is really useful).

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#873

Imagine they offered the same configuration with and without TouchBar, with the model with TouchBar costing $400 more - how many people would choose the model with? I bet less than 5%. Is Apple afraid to offer this because it clearly would show that almost no one is ready to pay for it? Even from this audience, who of you would be willing to pay the premium for the TouchBar?

Where did you get the $400 number from? That feels ridiculous (50% the cost of a new Macbook Air).

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#874

Imagine they offered the same configuration with and without TouchBar, with the model with TouchBar costing $400 more - how many people would choose the model with? I bet less than 5%. Is Apple afraid to offer this because it clearly would show that almost no one is ready to pay for it? Even from this audience, who of you would be willing to pay the premium for the TouchBar?

People in here would probably pay not to have to deal with the TouchBar at all.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#875

Imagine they offered the same configuration with and without TouchBar, with the model with TouchBar costing $400 more - how many people would choose the model with? I bet less than 5%. Is Apple afraid to offer this because it clearly would show that almost no one is ready to pay for it? Even from this audience, who of you would be willing to pay the premium for the TouchBar?

I would pay a premium for NOT having a touch bar. I want physical keys for brightness/volume etc.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#876

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

It turns out that people who buy laptops -- a mobile-ish form factor differentiated from a tablet by its keyboard -- might really really care about keyboards as the main interface between user and device. I'd concluded that Apple didn't really think much of laptops anymore, and had simply moved on to caring more about other form factors: it seemed a logical conclusion if one assumed that people at Apple were in fact…

> I'd concluded that Apple didn't really think much of laptops anymore, and had simply moved on to caring more about other form factors: it seemed a logical conclusion if one assumed that people at Apple were in fact competent.

Counterpoint, I love the new keyboards and hate using anything else. Amazing how far people go in assuming their opinion is correct, and then just keep going from there.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#877

Holy heck, they re-added a physical escape key. That's a huge improvement. a slight shame they didn't just move the touchbar up and re-add the F key row too, but it is a good compromise and improvement regardless. This could be the one a lot of people have been waiting for if the new switches/design pans out. PS - Although I might be an unusual demographic as I touch type and wouldn't use the touchbar regardless (sin…

> physical escape key I'm happy we VIM users have been loud enough to get the most important key back. :-) I know there's Ctrl-[ but it's 20 years of muscle memory to retrain, and I don't want to do that.

You shouldn't be happy that they added that back, you should be pissed that they took it out in the first place, well knowing how many developers use Mac.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#879
post #77

For others who might be wondering, this replaces the 15-inch MacBook Pro. There's a small increase in size (15 vs 16): - Thickness: 1.55cm to 1.62cm (+0.7mm, +4.5%) - Width: 34.93cm to 35.79cm (+0.86cm, +2.5%) - Depth: 24.07cm to 24.59cm (+0.52cm, +2.2%) - Weight: 1.83kg to 2.0kg (+170gr, +9.3%) The display alone is ~1.3cm wider (and ~0.7cm higher), so there was a small reduction in bezel sizes, allowing the screen t…

Dang. My 15” is already a hit too big for airplane work and this won’t help. 13 is too small as a daily driver. Can a guy get a 14”??

FWIW I successfully did some work on a United 787 in cattle class (economy) with my 15" macbook pro in a middle seat. It was tight, but it helped that the guy in the window seat fell asleep leaning to the wall... But yeah, I might resurrect my old trusty 2011 macbook air for situations like this...

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#880
post #12

I was so hoping for a constant bezel width. Unfortunately the top bezel is still a lot larger than the side ones. I know it's because of the camera, but that makes for an awkward looking device…

Maybe they should add a notch?

Please don't give them ideas.
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