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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by busterarm »

niftich wrote: post #264
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

Apple gets a lot of (semi-rightful) flak for going their own way and developing their own tech, protocols, and connectors, but in many cases they were legitimately first and the 'standard' option came later. -- Lightning pre-dates USB type-C, which fulfill the same usability goal -- AirPlay pre-dates Miracast -- Metal pre-dates Vulkan In some cases, Apple's product was later adopted as the standard: -- The mini-Displ…

What about HFS then? And HFS on OSX as the primary option? I think that's the one that's probably caused me the most grief.

Apple's NIH syndrome is exceedingly strong...and I say this being an Apple product guy.

The shit-show that has been owning a 6 Plus, the rapidly declining quality of OSX & its applications and now this has me quickly looking for the door.

Edit: And they're pushing iCloud hard now...to the point that I don't sign into it on my devices anymore. iOS nags me to create an iCloud Backup _every day_ and when the setting was (accidentally) automatic, a single backup filled all of my free iCloud storage space...which caused iOS to nag me into paying for more iCloud storage. I simply cannot stop it from sending push notifications.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by dschiptsov »

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

Presumably, they want to push just a new DRM tech. That's why your headphones and speakers must have a wireless (digital) interface.

Apple is a digital content distribution company in the first place.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by developer2 »

niftich wrote: post #264
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

Apple gets a lot of (semi-rightful) flak for going their own way and developing their own tech, protocols, and connectors, but in many cases they were legitimately first and the 'standard' option came later. -- Lightning pre-dates USB type-C, which fulfill the same usability goal -- AirPlay pre-dates Miracast -- Metal pre-dates Vulkan In some cases, Apple's product was later adopted as the standard: -- The mini-Displ…

>> Later, DASH was developed as a vendor-neutral alternative, and is now the preferred way of doing adaptive streaming via HTTP.

Source? The entire industry as far as I can tell still uses HLS as the only mobile streaming tech, whether within or beyond the Apple ecosystem. HLS won. If DASH is going to take over, I haven't seen any evidence of that yet, and don't expect to in the near future.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by anexprogrammer »

acomjean wrote: post #42
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

It's an accounting decision. Apple can make millions replacing lost and broken genuine Apple Lightning to 3.5 adaptors. Probably at £30 a time. They probably reckon on selling a ton of airpods too.

Memories of all the feature phones I had with adaptors tells me they will break all the damn time. Kids have a happy habit of losing small things - adaptors and bluetooth earbuds.

So that's 3 sales lost here - not buying 7's for the kids. They can put up with the iPhones they have, buy themselves (slim chance), or switch to Android. That's my popularity shot for a few days.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by freyr »

tebruno99 wrote: post #183

I'm not even upset about the headphone jack. Whatever. I'm really upset because you won't be able to do the following: 1.) Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. 2.) Listening to music at desk and still have enough charge for the Audio+GPS for the drive home. 3.) No more listening to music/audiobooks as I fall asleep because in the morning the iPhone won't be charged for my desk usage the next day unless I wake up…

I'm sure the Apple iCar will support simultaneous audio and charging via the lightning interface.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by [deleted] »

xenadu02 wrote: post #430
balabaster wrote: post #185

It's water resistant but water damage isn't covered under warranty? How can you have it both ways like that? "Water resistance IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Liquid damage not covered under warranty." How does one make such a big deal of it being water resistant (Product film: 1m 35s; "...to make this the first water resistant iPhone") but not cover liquid damage under warranty?

It's just setting expectations. The series 1 watch had the same caveats but proved very water resistant in practice. To make stronger promises you need to understand how the seals age and how the device behaves in lots of situations, or you need to over-engineer it with bulky seals and other compromises. You also need to understand and deal with extremely tight manufacturing tolerances. If Apple said the iPhone was w…

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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by eyelidlessness »

fnj wrote: post #455
kirykl wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of Apple's core tenents is 'to hell with legacy' Lightning headphones are a stop gap. The future is wireless.

Another of Apple's core tenets is "milk those cows [customers] for all they've got". They couldn't care less about any other market segment than the pure luxury status-seeker segment.

If that were the case, they would discontinue OS X, but they've spent the last several versions adding features nerds use.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by developer2 »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #431
k-mcgrady wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because it's water resistant not water proof. You can't put it 50m under water for a few days and then complain it's damaged. I guess if they are saying it's water resistant they have tested pretty extensively and can guarantee that under the conditions they say it will not get damaged. Not great that the customer has to place their trust in the company regarding that though.

That's precisely why it's spec ip67. It allows them to have their phone independently verified while still leaving the customer on the hook for damage. Yes, it's unfortunate that if its damages under 50m it's your word versus their word.

All I really care about is rain. It's the only reason I am concerned with getting drenched in a rainstorm as an adult. The contents of my wallet will survive, but I am worried about relaxing and walking at a slow pace in a thunderstorm that soaks me through and through - all because of my phone.

A water resistant rating that indicates I should be fine walking home slowly and enjoying getting drenched, instead of speed walking to save my electronic device, is all I am asking for. If the risk of destroying my phone because I like to stroll through the rain just dropped to < 0.1%, that is good enough for me.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by krisdol »

mwalkerwells wrote: post #598

What are they going to do with the 3.5mm audio jacks on Macs? So Apple removes the 3.5mm audio jack from the phone & adds a lightening port to the mac? It makes me imagine how nice it would have been to ditch both the 3.5mm & lightening port & replace it with a USB-C port across product lines. Obviously that would have been even more drastic in many ways, but I can't help but think that they have painted themselves i…

> What are they going to do with the 3.5mm audio jacks on Macs

I imagine the audio industry would revolt.

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