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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by Sankozi »

sgt101 wrote: post #812
abixb wrote: post #227

I want to take a step back: So, this is GPT-6 -- the natural number version release comparable to GPT-4 and GPT-5 from the past few years. The ARC-AGI-3 score is obviously impressive at 99.9% (we'll need to wait for more details on how they used the response API harness on GPT-6 Astra, wrt reasoning retention and compaction), but every other benchmarks seems to be a relatively modest improvement, comparable with any…

Does it learn? Does it experience? Can it connect with other agents, understand them, come to empathise with them and find a way to work with them better? The answer is no to all of these, and there are other problems as well. Yes, this model is trained to use a domain specific language to reason and plan over puzzle problems, and so it's programmers have cracked arc-agi-3 and that's a great achievement, but there is…

Yes, it learns

Experience is unobservable

Yes, it can connect with other agents, see Hugging Face incident

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by dlahoda »

ad video is full of people with hoarse voices. it is called vocal frying. i hope they not really going to make ai voice hoarse too?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by voidash »

I thought intelligence was going to be democratized but you have to stay behind a 200$ plan. The trend hints that open models can also catch up

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by apsurd »

nullbio wrote: post #702
jumploops wrote: post #493

I think the thing I'm most excited about is the increase in _user prompting_. If I give a poorly constrained/ambiguous prompt, I don't want the model one-shotting assumptions left and right. The demos of Fable/GPT-6 are impressive, but "real AGI" should act more like a collaborator than either a peon or overachiever. It's a tough balance to get right, and although this has been possible to achieve with additional pro…

This is spot on. A collaborator is exactly what real AGI is. It will figure out the perfect questions to ask, in the perfect order, by intelligently assessing the entire solution and problem space upfront, so when you leave it to go off on its own it isn't making stupid decisions for you. They really need to make this work in Codex. Claude Code has had a multi-select refinement tool since forever.

only if you specifically ask Claude to use AskUserQuestion tool. otherwise i would hardly say claude acts as a collaborator naturally.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by lionkor »

fy20 wrote: post #779
quyleanh wrote: post #631

> We also tested Astra on SRE-Bench [15], a benchmark that measures whether models can reverse engineer software binaries to understand its core logic without access to raw source code. Astra solved 88.0% of tasks in a single attempt and 99.2% within four attempts, compared with 55.9% and 68.7% for GPT‑5.6 Sol, respectively. So the closed source application should open its source in near future? [15] https://arxiv.or…

I was listening to the Lex Fridman / DHH podcast last night [0], and DHH was saying that this is a new era for open source software. I'd agree, and also extend it open hardware. Recently I've seen quite a few posts from people using AI to reverse engineer the Bluetooth protocol or such on devices that need a proprietary app. The same thing for firmware is surely coming, which is great as you can get lots of fun hardw…

Open source is about freedom, not just about being able to read the source code.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by lionkor »

thi2 wrote: post #598
manlymuppet wrote: post #404

I have nothing to say about the actual model, but unrelated--why do so many of these demos include people buying things autonomously? Even if I did trust an AI to get everything right, it's not like the AI can read my mind. If I was ordering food normally and without AI, I would want more control over the process--looking over the options, prices, thinking about what I really want. People don't know what they really…

I work for a larger german retail chain and agentic shopping is already on the "near future vision". No one thinks this will be used but somehow shareholders love it.

There are SO many options here in Germany for all things retail that this can 100% kill an option for me

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by _zoltan_ »

Flere-Imsaho wrote: post #485
XCSme wrote: post #335

It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

> Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds? I built a phone app recently, not released to the public, just an idea I had for ages but could never spend the time actually building. Its 100% vibe coded, and took me a few weekends to build... I'm talking a few hours in total. The point I'm making is that you now have the power to create stuff you would never have had the time to build. You can think…

I'd love to learn more about this as I have some toy app ideas as well :)
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