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Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by realty_geek »

sneak wrote: post #847
monkeydust wrote: post #845

The demise of saas has been overplayed imho. When companies buy software they are essentially buying something that solves a problem and the insurance that comes with that. Part of that means they get to pick up the phone and complain if something doesn't work and someone on the other end has to listen. There is also a strong community aspect to software, someone asks for an enhancement others can benefit etc. I just…

It won’t be the demise of general purpose SaaS like CRM, though it may be the rise of ridiculously full featured f/oss alternatives. However, niche stuff like vertical-specific CRUD apps that used to be able to charge a heavy SaaS premium simply because they could develop CRUD apps and UI faster than their customers are toast.

I buy this argument

I for one have found myself happily spending hundreds of dollars trying to build things I struggled to do in the past. And I am happy to keep things open source because I know the code is no longer the moat.

As an example, I started this almost 10 years ago:

https://github.com/RealEstateWebTools/property_web_scraper

I the past 4 days I have added more functionality to it that I ever did in all the time before.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by petcat »

tyingq wrote: post #692
josephg wrote: post #607

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Its also worth noting that if you can create a business with an LLM, so can everyone else. And sadly everyone has the same ideas Yeah, this is quite thought provoking. If computer code written by LLMs is a commodity, what new businesses does that enable? What can we do cheaply we couldn't do before? One obvious answer is we can make a lot more custom stuff . Like, why buy Windows and Office when I can just ask clau…

> If software is the commodity, what is the bespoke value-added service that can sit on top of all that? Troubleshooting and fixing the big mess that nobody fully understands when it eventually falls over?

> Troubleshooting and fixing the big mess that nobody fully understands

If that's actually the future of humans in software engineering then that sounds like a nightmare career that I want no part of. Just the same as I don't want anything to do with the gigantic mess of Cobal and Java powering legacy systems today.

And I also push back on the idea that llms can't troubleshoot and fix things, and therefore will eventually require humans again. My experience has been the opposite. I've found that llms are even better at troubleshooting and fixing an existing code base than they are at writing greenfield code from scratch.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by elestor »

fhub wrote: post #731

They use the word "Sonnet" 60+ times on that page but never give the casual reader any context of what a "Sonnet model" actually is. Neither does their landing page. You have to scroll all the way to the footer to find a link under the "Models" section. You click it and you finally get the description "Hybrid reasoning model with superior intelligence for agents, featuring a 1M context window" You then compare that t…

Yeah their naming is bad. I've always knew it because of how long the types of poems are but most people don't know poems.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by miki123211 »

josephg wrote: post #607
dakolli wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their goal is to monopolize labor for anything that has to do with i/o on a computer, which is way more than SWE. Its simple, this technology literally cannot create new jobs it simply can cause one engineer (or any worker whos job has to do with computer i/o) to do the work of 3, therefore allowing you to replace workers (and overwork the ones you keep). Companies don't need "more work" half the "features"/"products…

> Its also worth noting that if you can create a business with an LLM, so can everyone else. And sadly everyone has the same ideas Yeah, this is quite thought provoking. If computer code written by LLMs is a commodity, what new businesses does that enable? What can we do cheaply we couldn't do before? One obvious answer is we can make a lot more custom stuff . Like, why buy Windows and Office when I can just ask clau…

Software isn't just the code, it's also the stability that can only be gained after years of successful operation and ironing out bugs, the understanding of who your customers truly are, what are their actual needs (and not perceived needs), which features will drive growth. etc. I think there's still a "there" there.

I think the kind of software that everybody needs (think Slack or Jira) is at the greatest risk, as everybody will want to compete in those fields, which will drive margins to 0 (and that's a good thing for customers)! However, I think small businesses pandering to specific user groups will still be viable.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by raincole »

dana321 wrote: post #850
monkeydust wrote: post #845

The demise of saas has been overplayed imho. When companies buy software they are essentially buying something that solves a problem and the insurance that comes with that. Part of that means they get to pick up the phone and complain if something doesn't work and someone on the other end has to listen. There is also a strong community aspect to software, someone asks for an enhancement others can benefit etc. I just…

"Part of that means they get to pick up the phone and complain if something doesn't work and someone on the other end has to listen." All over the internet on forums are stories of software that haven't fixed x bug, missing features and bugs that have been in software for years.

Sure, and this is exactly why people buy software and vibe-coding can't replace it. Still don't get it? Windows, Photoshop, Figma, whatever popular software are full of issues. But people have worked around these issues and posted their workarounds and experiences online. The cost to live with these issues are amortized among the huge number of users.

When one got an issue with their in-house vibe-coded solution, where can they look for help? Nowhere, except hoping it can be fixed by throwing more token at it.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by littlestymaar »

andsoitis wrote: post #77

I’m voting with my dollars by having cancelled my ChatGPT subscription and instead subscribing to Claude. Google needs stiff competition and OpenAI isn’t the camp I’m willing to trust. Neither is Grok. I’m glad Anthropic’s work is at the forefront and they appear, at least in my estimation, to have the strongest ethics.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/12/anthropic-gives-20-million-t...

Now you see where you dollars are going.

(I'm pretty sure all AI tech company want regulatory capture, but Dario has been by far the most vocal lobbyist against competition).

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by swexbe »

monkeydust wrote: post #845

The demise of saas has been overplayed imho. When companies buy software they are essentially buying something that solves a problem and the insurance that comes with that. Part of that means they get to pick up the phone and complain if something doesn't work and someone on the other end has to listen. There is also a strong community aspect to software, someone asks for an enhancement others can benefit etc. I just…

Does this matter if a 2 person startup can blow them away on price?

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by 3uler »

mrbungie wrote: post #849
sneak wrote: post #847

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It won’t be the demise of general purpose SaaS like CRM, though it may be the rise of ridiculously full featured f/oss alternatives. However, niche stuff like vertical-specific CRUD apps that used to be able to charge a heavy SaaS premium simply because they could develop CRUD apps and UI faster than their customers are toast.

> full featured f/oss alternatives. Assuming this comes from lower barriers of entry to software engineering skills at scale with LLMs, this is still begs the question: Who will pay for the tokens? One thing is giving away your free time for passion, other one is giving away money. Maybe we'll see a future were people crowdsource projects supporting them directly via donations for tokens/LLM queries.

Do you not value your time? Paying a 100 bucks for a Claude max subscription is well worth it

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by littlestymaar »

dtech wrote: post #192
gallerdude wrote: post #69

The weirdest thing about this AI revolution is how smooth and continuous it is. If you look closely at differences between 4.6 and 4.5, it’s hard to see the subtle details. A year ago today, Sonnet 3.5 (new), was the newest model. A week later, Sonnet 3.7 would be released. Even 3.7 feels like ancient history! But in the gradient of 3.5 to 3.5 (new) to 3.7 to 4 to 4.1 to 4.5, I can’t think of one moment where I saw e…

If you've been using each new step is very noticeable and so have the mindshare. Around Sonnet 3.7 Claude Code-style coding became usable, and very quickly gained a lot of marketshare. Opus 4 could tackle significant more complexity. Opus 4.6 has been another noticable step up for me, suddenly I can let CC run significantly more independently, allowing multiple parallel agents where previously too much babysitting wa…

> If you've been using each new step is very noticeable and so have the mindshare. Around Sonnet 3.7 Claude Code-style coding became usable

Yet I vividly remember the complaints about how 3.7 was a regression compared to 3.5 with people advising to stay on 3.5.

Conversely, Sonnet 4 was well received so it's not just a story about how complainers make the most noise.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by danelski »

eru wrote: post #762
dakolli wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their goal is to monopolize labor for anything that has to do with i/o on a computer, which is way more than SWE. Its simple, this technology literally cannot create new jobs it simply can cause one engineer (or any worker whos job has to do with computer i/o) to do the work of 3, therefore allowing you to replace workers (and overwork the ones you keep). Companies don't need "more work" half the "features"/"products…

> Their goal is to monopolize labor for anything that has to do with i/o on a computer, which is way more than SWE. Its simple, this technology literally cannot create new jobs it simply can cause one engineer (or any worker whos job has to do with computer i/o) to do the work of 3, therefore allowing you to replace workers (and overwork the ones you keep). Companies don't need "more work" half the "features"/"produc…

The baristas example can only make me think that with the growing wealth disparity and no obvious exit path for white collars we might see a big return of servant-like jobs for below 1%. Who wouldn't want to wake up and daily assist life of some remaining upper-middle class Anthropic's employee?
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