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GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Post by seba_dos1 »

palata wrote: post #832
seba_dos1 wrote: post #821

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You're vigorously defending a poorly thought out title by inventing irrelevant contexts and falsely accusing multiple people of being wrong because they claimed such uncontroversial things like "AOSP is Android". Sure, if we want to be strictly correct then AOSP is not Android, but rather the name of a Google project that distributes the source code of Android - but that's not how the term is commonly used in these d…

> Sure, if we want to be strictly correct then AOSP is not Android, but rather the name of a Google project that distributes the source code of Android Thank you. I do find it ironic that you could not understand what I mean given that you're the kind of people who say "GNU/Linux".

This means GOS is not AOSP either, because it's not that particular project. It takes the Android source produced by AOSP and builds on it. But what you agreed to is just pointless pedantry that leads directly to this outcome, as everyone uses "AOSP" to refer to what AOSP produces (which is a particular flavor of Android that serves as a base to build other flavors on).

It stops being ironic when you take some time to understand that the two cases only appear related superficially, but are actually quite different. You could even say opposite.

Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Post by g6taa »

haskman wrote: post #235

Been running GrapheneOS for a while on a Pixel 9, and extremely happy with it! Apart from the usual perks of the FOSS ecosystem, there are a few things specific to GrapheneOS that are not immediately apparent but have turned out to work very well - 1. The Pixel camera app works, including all modes and settings. A camera that takes good photos was absolutely a requirement for me, and the FOSS camera apps are not quit…

> 2. I don't have Google Photos and the pixel camera app tries to launch google photos when you want to review the picture you just took. But there is a FOSS app called GPhotosShim that uses the same namespace as google photos and thus fools the camera into launching that app instead. Once launched, it just launches whatever media management app you actually have configured, so it's seamless.

There's also GCam https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider

I don't know if it matters, but GPhotosShim doesn't seem to get updated.

Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Post by seba_dos1 »

palata wrote: post #836
JCattheATM wrote: post #770

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You're vastly exaggerating that difference. It's ridiculous to say it's incorrect that GOS is not Android based.

> It's ridiculous to say it's incorrect that GOS is not Android based. I totally agree, but that's not what I'm saying, is it? Someone said: > "Break Free from Android and iOS" looks inside - Android I answered that there is actually a nuance that is relevant in the context of this article. Ignoring that nuance to make the article sound stupid is simply unfair.

We are all well aware of that nuance, and it doesn't make a poor title less silly.

Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Post by dangus »

dotancohen wrote: post #383
dangus wrote: post #319

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I’m just imagining myself pulling out the stylus on the train/plane, dropping it, and watching it roll away forever.

They thought of that! The cutaway of the stylus is a rounded rectangle, comfortable in the fingers but does not roll. In any case, replacement stylii are very cheap online. Less than a screen protector.

Good to know they’re cheap, I actually figured they’d be more like an expensive active stylus.

Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Post by dangus »

izacus wrote: post #522
dangus wrote: post #319

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I’m just imagining myself pulling out the stylus on the train/plane, dropping it, and watching it roll away forever.

Millions of owners of Samsung devices somehow manage to not do that every day.

I’ve never seen anyone in real life using the stylus on a Samsung phone so I always figured it was a somewhat unused feature of a very specific niche model in the lineup.

The ultra series MSRP is over $1400, I imagine at that price Samsung sells less than 5% of their volume with an integrated S Pen.

Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Post by abustamam »

ajnin wrote: post #810
abustamam wrote: post #809

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Sorry I'm a bit lost here. Are you saying requiring a special character and a number are dumb password policies? Wouldn't charset AND length make for exponentially higher entropy? 52 (or 62 for digits) to the length power vs (62+20 special chars) to the length power? Or am I missing something?

I guess what they're saying is that, for example, a password of length 12 has about 71 bits of entropy if using an alphabet of 62 characters, and 76 bits with an alphabet of 82 characters. But if you only increase the length by 1 you already get 77 bits with 62 characters only. So length beats adding special chars in that sense.

Gotcha, I guess my question is, why not both? Is it the requirement of special chars over a min-length password that is in question here? Like the system is like "minimum 8 char password but also three special chars, ancient heiroglyphs, and the blood of your firstborn child" when you can omit the special chars and just have min 16 char password for the same security benefit?

Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Post by abustamam »

InitialLastName wrote: post #659
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #515

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Depending on the protocol they can be url encoded or even helpfully html encoded; the same password can be used over different protocols. It's the best to not use punctuation by default (length supplies more entropy than charset), I add -0 at the end to make dumb password policies happy.

Often, the same ones with limited punctuation also have length limits, so maximizing the character options is the only way to maximize entropy.

This is true, but I think the argument is that for maintainers of the system, it's more work to allow more char options when it (should be) more trivial to change MAX_PASS_LENGTH from 12 to 32. Like, if you're gonna add more restrictions, make it the ones that encourage, not block, more secure passwords.

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Post by askonomm »

notpushkin wrote: post #811
askonomm wrote: post #546

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It costs as much as your ID card costs by the government, and lasts as long as well. They are one and the same. Applying for a new ID card / national ID document in Estonia costs 35€ and the document is valid for 5 years. If you forget your PIN code, you can reset it with your PUK codes, but if you also lose your PUK codes you need to apply for a new ID card. The process for getting a new ID card from the moment you…

> but if you also lose your PUK codes you need to apply for a new ID card Or it seems you can reset the PIN/PUK for 10 €: https://www.politsei.ee/en/instructions/state-fee-amounts

Ah didn't know that! That's way better than applying for a new card indeed.
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