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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by ExoticPearTree »

fullstop wrote: post #851
ExoticPearTree wrote: post #819

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@cauch: let me ask you this: how do you weed out the illegals besides asking for proof or citizenship or proof of a passport visa that you are in the US legally?

Really, you're going to go with "papers, please" ? ICE is on record of requesting ID from _children_. I don't know if you're a parent, but my kids didn't carry ID until they were nearly adults. That's okay, though, because they're white. I don't like bringing race into this, but we're not seeing ICE ask white people for their passports. I don't have a problem weeding out dangerous criminals, but flagging someone who…

> Did you carry proof of citizenship as a child? Do you carry it today? I don't, as my license is not a "real id" yet.

Where I'm from, I am legally required to have proof of ID with me all the time. So basically used to never leaving home without it.

No, going back to what you're saying: why is it wrong to deport somebody that came to the US illegally? Just because they were good citizens is it OK to be forgiven for crossing the border illegally? How does that make any sense?

And speaking about TPS, you know what the T stands for, right?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by blactuary »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #823
20after4 wrote: post #818

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Abusive relationships aren't always easy to escape. Even more so when the partner is extremely rich and powerful.

I missed this further in the article. She broke up with him four years after the first claim of rape only after she found out he was with a 22-year old. So she didn't have any problems "escaping" the relationship.

This is gross man. Abusive relationships are way more complicated than that, judging someone in this situation because you read one article about it is out of line

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by blactuary »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #837
KennyBlanken wrote: post #566

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Thiel lost his shit because Gawker mentioned he was gay in an article on their site. Something _everybody_ in Silicon Valley already knew. Then he goes and forms what essentially amounts to a private CIA. How about Musk? He felt he had a right to hoover up data about people from every government agency, but throws a massive temper-tantrum when people publish where his private jet is flying using publicly available da…

i hate defending thiel since hes literally destroying society, but he didn't get mad at gawker just for outing him he got mad at gawker for deliberately outing him right as he went to meet the saudis for negotiations. a country that literally executes gay people. at best it strained the negotiations and made things awkward, and at worst could have put him in peril. you dont just out people without their consent, and…

So he was willing to make a business deal with the country that executes gay people, as long as HE wasn't in danger? Legitimizing their regime is perfectly OK if it doesn't affect him? The fact that he was negotiating with them makes that incident look even worse for him, not Gawker

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by Bluescreenbuddy »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #837
KennyBlanken wrote: post #566

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thiel lost his shit because Gawker mentioned he was gay in an article on their site. Something _everybody_ in Silicon Valley already knew. Then he goes and forms what essentially amounts to a private CIA. How about Musk? He felt he had a right to hoover up data about people from every government agency, but throws a massive temper-tantrum when people publish where his private jet is flying using publicly available da…

i hate defending thiel since hes literally destroying society, but he didn't get mad at gawker just for outing him he got mad at gawker for deliberately outing him right as he went to meet the saudis for negotiations. a country that literally executes gay people. at best it strained the negotiations and made things awkward, and at worst could have put him in peril. you dont just out people without their consent, and…

"you dont just out people without their consent, and that goes for rich or poor."

Nah fuck him. If you're closeted and funding anti-queer causes and politicians you deserve to be outed.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by red-iron-pine »

mmcwilliams wrote: post #442
andy99 wrote: post #73

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> less coverage or discussion than a new version of jQuery Pretty sure this is a feature not a bug. Most people aren’t here for political topics.

Preserving the status quo is a political position.

being neutral on a moving train, etc.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by paulryanrogers »

smitty1e wrote: post #857
paulryanrogers wrote: post #253

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These states may be fundamentally too resource poor to effectively maintain their populations. So collectively we agreed that richer states should subsidize them, because no one wants to see their neighbors suffer unnecessarily. And in the hope that newer generations may invent or unlock other resources to break the cycles of poverty. My fear is that many of these states are locked in a bubble of lies, a culture that…

> My fear is that many of these states are locked in a bubble of lies, a culture that longs for an imaginary and idealized past that never existed. Speaking of "bubble of lies..."

I've lived in northern and southern states for years. Was raised (very) evangelical Christian and left that behind, yet still have family deep inside. My bubble has been thoroughly popped. Still I have to witness the descent of friends and family members into fantasy as they age and become more isolated by circumstance and their media choices. College educated people who now tell me the Earth is probably flat, 9/11 was probably an inside job, J6 was just some over eager tourists.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by rlt »

AngryData wrote: post #716
rlt wrote: post #540

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If it misfired it likely misfired as it was being taken, not while in his holster. If you’re detaining someone who has a gun and a gun goes off it’s incompetent, maybe negligent, but not murder to react by shooting the guy who had the gun. I don’t think anyone can draw definitive conclusions from the videos.

How is that not murder? In your scenario the guy is still innocent and he was shot to death because of ICE being scared by their own incompetence. If someone claps their hands and I reflexively mag dump you on the street, am I not guilty of murder?

Obviously because murder requires intent. It might be negligent homicide though.

There’s a big difference between someone randomly clapping their hands and an agent seeing/hearing that a detainee has a firearm, then hearing the firearm discharge as they’re struggling to restrain him.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by fullstop »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #861
fullstop wrote: post #851

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really, you're going to go with "papers, please" ? ICE is on record of requesting ID from _children_. I don't know if you're a parent, but my kids didn't carry ID until they were nearly adults. That's okay, though, because they're white. I don't like bringing race into this, but we're not seeing ICE ask white people for their passports. I don't have a problem weeding out dangerous criminals, but flagging someone who…

> Did you carry proof of citizenship as a child? Do you carry it today? I don't, as my license is not a "real id" yet. Where I'm from, I am legally required to have proof of ID with me all the time. So basically used to never leaving home without it. No, going back to what you're saying: why is it wrong to deport somebody that came to the US illegally? Just because they were good citizens is it OK to be forgiven for…

> Where I'm from, I am legally required to have proof of ID with me all the time. So basically used to never leaving home without it.

Yes, I too have proof of ID. It does not prove that I am a citizen. I can also tell you that children in the USA do not carry ID.

> No, going back to what you're saying: why is it wrong to deport somebody that came to the US illegally?

If they were brought here as young children, yes, it's wrong -- they're being punished for the actions of their parents.

> And speaking about TPS, you know what the T stands for, right?

Of course. Let's look at Somalia, who recently had their temporary protected status designation revoked. Their home country is currently involved in a civil war, and the US government simultaneously lists Somalia as "Level 4: Do Not Travel". There's a good chance that we're sending these people to their deaths. You are okay with this?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by asksomeoneelse »

fn-mote wrote: post #815
jorts wrote: post #507

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It was probably a decade ago and I recall using something within Google that would tell you about who they thought you were. It profiled me as a middle eastern middle aged man or something like that which was… way off.

The idea that Google’s lack of knowledge of you a decade ago is somehow related to what they know today is naive. Dangerously naive, I would say. Ad targeting technology (= knowledge about you) is shocking good now.

Color me unconvinced. Google can't even figure what language I speak even though I voluntarily provide them the information in several different ways. I can't understand half the ads they serve me.
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