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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#862Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, English is very confusing (or at least I get the impression that it is more confusing than other languages - it's the only one I speak). Even in your example, I think you misunderstand. "He was all but dead" is never used to mean "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say". That would be "he was anything but dead". However, there is a caveat, since even native speakers increasingly over the years…
> Even in your example, I think you misunderstand. "He was all but dead" is never used to mean "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say". That would be "he was anything but dead". ah, sorry I was not clear - what I meant with the "or" is that there are 2 ways to understand this sentence, one of them being incorrect :)
Ah - yes, I misunderstood your description of misunderstanding.
Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#863It really is kind of incredible. I just saw the clip and there really is absolutely nothing there. This is not even 10% as poignant of what Jon Stewart would say in his day. He doesn't even say anything about Kirk himself, or even about the murder—he just talks about the reaction to it. I already thought it was very suspicious that Sinclair's official press release just talks about how the remarks were "inappropriate…
Trump and Co. are the biggest "snowflakes". Anything that even hints at not being in line with their thoughts, they put the power of the government to work to punish it. It doesn't even matter what anyone says or thinks, once they're set on it being bad, they're on it and it's always played up to be the worst thing ever. There's no discussion, no indication what really happened, facts are irrelevant, all lies and thr…
When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because this is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because this is according to my principles. - Frank Herbert
Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#864Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Catch, fascist" is a reference to the Hell Divers 2 video game, it is less a political calling card and more of a reference to gaming.
Fair enough, but it's written on a bullet meant to assassinate someone in real life. Had it been in the context of playing video games, I would see it just being a game quote. Ok, fine, but then "Bella ciao" is an anti-Nazi and anti-fascist Italian folk song (at least according to wikipedia) [1], so, we got a hard right winger, mentioning killing fascists and listening to Bella ciao killing someone like Charlie Kirk.…
The guy was at best confused in his ideological leanings. He held midly leftist ideas on some issues and right wing ideas on others, like on gun ownership. Typical of a young Utah white guy, I'd say.
He was raised in a die-hard Trump Christian family. He allegedly had some LGBT friends too, and got angry at Kirk's rhetoric against them as a group. Which, if you knew Kirk before his murder, framing LGBT people as degenerate and dangerous freaks of natures was kind of his bread and butter. This doesn't justify the killing, but certainly explains it.
I'm sure more will come of it, but I doubt there's much of interest in here. What's more important are the reactions of public figures, and so far, none on the right have called for de-escalation.
Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#865The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Seems that now they've adopted a "turnaround is fair play" mentality.
This is one of those interminable sprawling message board arguments that has a really simple resolution nobody wants to accept, which is that commitment to free expression and "right/left" are mostly orthogonal, and both the right and the left weaponize commitment to free expression when it makes sense for them to.
This is the exact type of cowardly but comfortable fence-sitting that we were warned against after WW2.
It's devoid of proportionality & it accepts a narrative crafted by the right-wingers themselves through repetition for exactly this purpose. There was never ever any doubt that all the hyperbolic outrage from the right about grassroots "cancel culture" was going to be used by the authors to excuse actual censorship as far as their current power and societal normalization allows them to. Preparing the ground for a "You did it first!" is not exactly innovative, it's fascism 101.
Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#866Earlier quoted context omitted.
Killing a dog for acting like a dog is merciful?
It is from a farmer's point of view. The chickens are an investment and produce. A dog that kills chickens is a liability and it's nearly impossible to change that behavior once they get a taste for it. It will never be a good work dog.
Why not rehome it instead of killing it?
Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#867Earlier quoted context omitted.
The number one rule of fascism is to not comply in advance. Speak out loudly and use your rights; force them to take action to stop you.
That is a quick way to end up in the statistics. But what else can you do? They already control the media and corporations.
Today, our rights are being contested; tomorrow, they will be lost if enough of us refuse to fight.
Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#868It really is kind of incredible. I just saw the clip and there really is absolutely nothing there. This is not even 10% as poignant of what Jon Stewart would say in his day. He doesn't even say anything about Kirk himself, or even about the murder—he just talks about the reaction to it. I already thought it was very suspicious that Sinclair's official press release just talks about how the remarks were "inappropriate…
Trump and Co. are the biggest "snowflakes". Anything that even hints at not being in line with their thoughts, they put the power of the government to work to punish it. It doesn't even matter what anyone says or thinks, once they're set on it being bad, they're on it and it's always played up to be the worst thing ever. There's no discussion, no indication what really happened, facts are irrelevant, all lies and thr…
Increasingly this resembles a mandatory state ideology.
Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#869The summary at the top of the page says > ABC said it was pulling the “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” show off the air “indefinitely” after controversial comments by its host about the slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. but the article says the following, which is entirely different: > “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everyth…
I think everybody is (reasonably) confused by the use of the words "anything other than". It's usually used in phrases that express the speaker's opinion to the opposite ("as if this is anything other than performative" means "this is performative"). Based on the clip, it sounds like Kimmel unfortunately used it literally: "trying to portray [him] as anything other than...", as in, "they're jumping the gun on his por…
I am a native English speaker and I don't actually know what he was trying to say, but it just seemed like he was talking about the MAGAs trying to quickly pin blame on not-MAGA. This is why I'm not a monologue writer.
Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair
#870It really is kind of incredible. I just saw the clip and there really is absolutely nothing there. This is not even 10% as poignant of what Jon Stewart would say in his day. He doesn't even say anything about Kirk himself, or even about the murder—he just talks about the reaction to it. I already thought it was very suspicious that Sinclair's official press release just talks about how the remarks were "inappropriate…
For those who want to see the full clip in context, he has a youtube channel (for now). The video in question is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHT7ICvMtlA (Sept 16, 2025) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3YdxNSzTk (Sept 15, 2025)
The quote cited in TFA claims that the murderer was "one of them". Now, why would someone take out a prominent spokesperson for their own party? They wouldn't, because that's not something that people do to other people they agree with. But somehow, people interpret that remark to make sense? The remark only makes sense if "one of them" refers to the fact the shooter was a white male, and the reader believes all white males are on the same side, and the enemy, and that the incident serves as entertainment. So, yes, I find that remark extremely problematic, and representative of increasingly tribal and divisive "us vs. them" mentality that is gridlocking the country. Not to mention, the comment is itself using the event for political "told-you-so"-ism, while criticizing others for doing exactly that, so it's utterly hypocritical. We can and must set a higher standard for our talking heads. If you want to be a popular figure without burning bridges, maybe don't be so brazenly racist and sexist to the point of publicly celebrating murder because it was "one of them", thinking that proves anything other than that the speaker is a sociopath?