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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by kminehart »

moralestapia wrote: post #817
kminehart wrote: post #258

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> Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however. It doesn't exist at the moment. :\ I would pay 2x the price of a macbook for a linux laptop with the same hardware quality. The battery life and power/efficiency of my m4 pro is insane. It's so good that it's really hard to justify using anything else right now.

>I would pay 2x the price of a macbook for a linux laptop with the same hardware quality. Same, and I've been wanting this for 15 years now ...

Before their arm64 CPUs you could get a thinkpad or an xps and not have really bad FOMO. But now... it's just not even close :\

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by kminehart »

mbernstein wrote: post #636
andrepd wrote: post #620

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That's ridiculous. Thinkpads, Zephyrus G14, Framework, they all have performance, build quality, screens, battery, etc, comparable to a Mac.

Do they? So far I haven’t found anything that matches battery life, build quality, or trackpad quality.

also don't forget how quiet this thing is.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by eloisius »

Citizen_Lame wrote: post #784
eloisius wrote: post #771

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I used Mac for 10 years and started feeling the same irritation around 2017. In 2020 I finally bit the bullet and switched to Linux. The initial investment into getting a usable Arch desktop was horrible. It took several days just to get to the point of something that I could boot into and be productive. It takes me a long time to get things working the way I want, but I kind of enjoy that aspect of total customizati…

Out of curiosity, what kind of work do you do on Linux. Because, some workflows are simply not possible on Linux due to missing applications.

I work on computer vision stuff. Most of my time is in the browser, or on the terminal (Alacritty, tmux, neovim). I've actually become more of a GUI user since switching from macOS to Linux. I used to be way more die-hard about CLI-everything, but I love using `git gui` now. I think Dolphin is the superior file manager experience available to mankind. Okular is an excellent PDF reader, but leaves a tiny bit to be missed about Preview.

I'm fairly serious about photography and spend a lot of time editing and post-processing photos. This is a major shortcoming of my desktop and I may end up getting a MacBook just for this purpose. digiKam is just okay for organizing photos, and RawTherapee is barely okay. I don't mind it's ugly UI, but I'm discovering that even aside from UI considerations it just can't produce the results that Adobe can. Things like noise reduction are just not there.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by konart »

mikae1 wrote: post #859
eloisius wrote: post #771

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I used Mac for 10 years and started feeling the same irritation around 2017. In 2020 I finally bit the bullet and switched to Linux. The initial investment into getting a usable Arch desktop was horrible. It took several days just to get to the point of something that I could boot into and be productive. It takes me a long time to get things working the way I want, but I kind of enjoy that aspect of total customizati…

> The initial investment into getting a usable Arch desktop was horrible. It is my conviction that very few should go down the Arch route. If you want to sysadmin Linux or learn how to do so, fine. But if you want to do something else with your computer I'd strongly recommend looking into one of the https://universal-blue.org images (I use https://getaurora.dev btw). These are based on atomic Fedora and my experience…

>These are based on atomic Fedora and my experience is that they offer extreme stability

These were my hopes. Up until a new update introduced something that broke my nvidia drivers "integration".

After a few days I decided to try to update the system once more (which killed the oldest snapshot) and I was left with the system that can only be run in 1024 mode. I've tried every suggestion from the web to no avail.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by eloisius »

mikae1 wrote: post #859
eloisius wrote: post #771

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I used Mac for 10 years and started feeling the same irritation around 2017. In 2020 I finally bit the bullet and switched to Linux. The initial investment into getting a usable Arch desktop was horrible. It took several days just to get to the point of something that I could boot into and be productive. It takes me a long time to get things working the way I want, but I kind of enjoy that aspect of total customizati…

> The initial investment into getting a usable Arch desktop was horrible. It is my conviction that very few should go down the Arch route. If you want to sysadmin Linux or learn how to do so, fine. But if you want to do something else with your computer I'd strongly recommend looking into one of the https://universal-blue.org images (I use https://getaurora.dev btw). These are based on atomic Fedora and my experience…

For better or worse, I'm exactly the person who should go down this route.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

Ecco wrote: post #155

I feel like we’ve gone full circle. For decades Apple hardware sucked and was badly overpriced, but you paid the price to enjoy running Mac OS X. Now Apple makes amazing hardware (especially laptops) but the drawback is that you have to run macOS on them. I really wish Asahi Linux had more support, I would have bought a couple M4 Minis.

Actually, save power efficiency, Apple is still behind the curve and has been for decades. Nvidia has reigned uninterrupted for longer than I can remember and regularly beats Apple in raw performance on available hardware, and AMD has regularly topped benchmarks for years.

In fact, AMD and Nvidia have been the de facto high-performance combination for so long, that I can't remember when it was any different. But prior to that, it was Intel and Nvidia. Apple was never a real high quality hardware competitor. The only thing they ever had to offer were products produced by a production process almost no one replicates.

Razer started used CNC unibodies for their laptops 14 years ago, but they're maybe the only company I can think of that does so other than Apple.

And MSI has shipped high performance laptops for so long that even Apple used their laptops for comparison during the M-series chip releases in the MacBook Pro.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by quesera »

gizajob wrote: post #848
quesera wrote: post #798

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You just spent far more time ranting about what Spotlight can index, than it would have taken to open the configuration and turn off the sources you do not want. Cue "discovery" rant. Defaults are chosen carefully, but they cannot meet every user's preferences. So, periodically spend a few minutes exploring the enormous software package that is your OS, and be happier for it. I find this vastly more rewarding than co…

On occasion… In the actual world. I try to hit command-space on reality in order to find my keys.

I realize I'm working too many hours when I reflexively twitch for Cmd-Z after making a mistake in the physical world.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by jmull »

latexr wrote: post #513
jmull wrote: post #362

I'm baffled by the hate. So far, it's just some nice looking cosmetic changes. All entirely inconsequential -- I've seen nothing yet that will affect my workflows in any way.

Wait until you use it a bit more and get some overlap into an unreadable mess. Open System Settings right now, do a search, then scroll the view. That’s the least worst you’ll find.

I tried it and it works well, and looks good.

What's the bad thing I'm supposed to be seeing?

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by caycep »

sbuk wrote: post #560
caycep wrote: post #339

they need to bring Scott Forstall or someone Bertrand Serlet-esque back, and a designer who isn't Alan Dye

Rich Corinthian Leather? Green baize backgrounds? Really..?

At least he was consistent and the UI design made sense, textures aside. And UI gossip aside, all the accounts from every engineer who worked under him consistently praised him.

Safari with its KHTML underpinnings was also created under his watch, apparently.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by no-stegosaur »

theshrike79 wrote: post #89
ryandrake wrote: post #17

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It's been so long since Apple has released anything in either iOS or macOS that excited me as a user. I don't seem to be their target customer anymore. The only reason I even have to "upgrade" to a higher version number is how quickly app developers (including Apple themselves) drop support for older OS's. My iPhone which is stuck on iOS 15 runs just as well as the day I bought it, but every other app I download tell…

When was the next Windows or Linux (distro) release that "excited" you? It's all slow incremental updates pretty much.

The immutable and atomic movement in Linuxland is very exciting. Cloud native distro building with docker/podman in CI pipelines is just insane: Building+testing+deployment with ci/cd can now not only be done with some python package, but a whole distribution. Also Wayland, Pipewire, Flatpak and Btrfs are great stuff. Of course they don't get developed in one release cycle, but in recent years they made large leaps and became default on many distros.
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