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Post by rs186 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #790
rs186 wrote: post #714

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> I love the idea of an on-device model My impression is that most people here haven't tried similar small models and don't have first hand experience with them. They are, to be honest, terrible. They may be good for certain tasks, but are much weaker than something like GPT4. I don't feel excited about these small models that are not fast yet hallucinate all the time.

Weaker by what metric? Are you asking them to explain the fall of Rome to you? The point of a small model isn't to be an interactive Wikipedia. It's there to call tools, get more data, aggregate the data and return a natural language result. It does not "hallucinate", because it only uses what the tools provide.

If you just look ar similar discussions on HN, you'll see that these models often don't even answer the specific question you ask but just give you random nonsense. I'd rather see an honest "I don't know" instead of complete gibberish.

I'm not going to use any small model that has a chance of dialing 911 when asked to send a text message to a friend.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by jhickok »

SweetSoftPillow wrote: post #784
dmd wrote: post #105

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I'm calendar-driven to such an extent that I joke that all it would take to murder me would be to insert "jump off a cliff" in my calendar.

I never use a calendar; most days, I don't even know what day it is. So, your approach is very interesting to me. Could you please tell me more about what your day looks like on the calendar? How detailed is it, and do you do this even on holidays?

not OP, but the only way for me and my 3 kids (2 high school, 1 junior high) to keep everything straight between appointments, sporting events and practice, work schedules (2 kids have jobs) is to use a shared calendar. We learned early a few things, like 1. don't get cute and put padding because you are worried about being late, it messes with other people 2) don't put reminders, they confuse people 3. if it isnt in the calendar, it isnt happening

We used our calendar for a recent road trip to keep everything sorted. Even on vacations, if you are doing more than chilling at a campsite, it can be very useful for the same reasons.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by KoolKat23 »

jjice wrote: post #82
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You can already ask Gemini those questions on your phone. This is more popping up magically before you needed to ask. Both are great (when they work).

Oh really? I switched to an iPhone end of last year (for non-AI reasons), so I may be missing out. Is this on on-device model, or does it still dispatch to hosted Gemini? But I'd imagine that Gemini would have a great integration with Calendar and Gmail.

It's replacing Google assistant so popups instead and has integration. Problem I've found is it was quite lazy on occasion in searching your gmail etc. and just says can't find anything unless you argue with it. I do think this is improved at least in the last uodate so don't want to be too harsh on them.

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Post by bmicraft »

rchaud wrote: post #535
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> This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. I'm interested to hear more about this, because it's always interesting to understand how other people interact with things who have different use cases or usage models. How tight are your jeans, and how do you fit anything else in your pocket if something ~1in thick doesn't fit comfortably (without having to force the pocket open in a way that woul…

I don't wear tight jeans and I've come to loathe having to put my phone in my pants pocket. If you're walking around a lot, the feeling is just annoying, you can feel it pressing on your leg the whole time. When I sit down, the bunching feeling is even worse, so I immediately put the phone on the table. This wasn't an issue when phones had 4.7"-5"-inch screens. Nowadays the phone goes into the cargo pocket if I'm wea…

I've got a single short that does that (re: bunching feeling) and it's just because the pocket isn't deep enough for the phone to sit flat against my thigh.

I'd rather choose my shorts more carefully in the future than switch to a smaller phone (that might still have the same problem if not tiny) just because of that.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by bmicraft »

wraptile wrote: post #691
bityard wrote: post #55

> Pixel 10, Pixel 10 Pro and Pixel 10 Pro XL are all available for preorder today starting at $799, $999 and $1199. Sigh, still not going to pay more for a phone than I paid for my computer. Also, what is up with that camera module? This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. At least round the corners or add little ramps. I guess this is what happens when design folk are allowed to trump engin…

> _starting_ at $799, $999 and $1199. At 126GB storage, which is basically unusable in 2025 and it's a phone you want to last to 2030. This storage bait needs to be made illegal, it literally costs almost nothing to manufacture and exists purely to punish and trick the consumer.

If you don't have multiple 10g+ games or hours of video on your phone then 128GB can easily be enough.

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Post by 51Cards »

bsimpson wrote: post #150
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I still carry my Pixel 5 for this reason. 2 replacement batteries in now and I have a spare sitting on a shelf. That said the Pixel 9A is tempting as it's not much larger than my Pixel 5. I hate that the finger print readers have moved to the front though. The sensor on the back of my 5 is perfectly postioned and also acts like a little track-pad for opening the notification tray. It was a perfect design IMO.

> a spare sitting on a shelf Does that work for batteries? I feel like unused batteries tend to become unusable batteries.

Sorry, my wording was misleading there. A spare Pixel 5 on the shelf so if something happens to this one I have an immediate replacement. I pop it onto a charger every couple months to prevent the battery from going too low.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by 51Cards »

51Cards wrote: post #25
the__alchemist wrote: post #2

Looks like they're still only available in "Huge" and "comically oversized". I guess I can keep buying Pixel 4s until new ones (req for battery) are no longer available.

I still carry my Pixel 5 for this reason. 2 replacement batteries in now and I have a spare sitting on a shelf. That said the Pixel 9A is tempting as it's not much larger than my Pixel 5. I hate that the finger print readers have moved to the front though. The sensor on the back of my 5 is perfectly postioned and also acts like a little track-pad for opening the notification tray. It was a perfect design IMO.

Replying to my own comment as I can no longer edit. To clarify, I have a spare Pixel 5 sitting on the shelf. Was inexpensive to purchase a backup a few years ago off of a local classifieds site, still new in box.

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Post by kiwijamo »

framapotari wrote: post #839
d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #695

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I'm right there with you. I work in tech, but I don't want to fuss with tech when I'm off the clock. Like, it all annoys me and just feels like work. When my router breaks I just buy a new one. When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one. I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket? I have…

> Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket? Because I haven't carried a card for years now. I couldn't even tell you where my physical credit card is.

I guess this is very geographic dependent. I live in a country where only maybe 80% of merchants accept Visa/Mastercard (and thus only those can accept Google/Apple Pay) so I need to either carry a card for our domestic payment card infrastructure–or carry cash in order to be able to transact with any shops.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by kiwijamo »

neogodless wrote: post #636
gundmc wrote: post #625

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As a former Pixel and current Samsung user, I can relate to almost everything on this list except for the Camera app. What is it that you prefer about the Samsung iteration? I found my preference to be for the Pixel version.

As a Pixel / Galaxy / OnePlus user... My app and photo quality preference are OnePlus > Pixel > > > ... > Samsung. shrug Really it could be a toss up between OnePlus and Google depending on generation. My partner's Pixel 7 takes nearly as nice photos as my OnePlus 12. My Galaxy photos were... very watercolor paint. I could not stand them.

Strange I have a S21 and I can't tell the diff between photos taken with the S21 and those shared to me from owners of other phones. I find generally modern high end phones all take good photos. YMMV of course.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by margalabargala »

barbazoo wrote: post #279
kingstnap wrote: post #123

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You can't just say A less bad then B so we should all do A. You have to consider number of A * badness A vs number of B * badness B. If thousands of pixel users start doing test calls in mass you will actually start causing that unable to make an emergency call issue.

And then maybe we will act and hold Google accountable for having a potentially lethal bug on their phone.

Or maybe not.

And then everything is just worse.

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