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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by thfuran »

dijit wrote: post #641
pjc50 wrote: post #582

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Paradoxically, the problem with an "alternative net" (which could be tunneled over the regular one) is keeping it alternative. It has to be kept small and un-influential in order to stay under the radar. If you end up with an "alternative" which is used by journalists and politicians, you've just reinvented the mainstream, and you're no longer safe from being hit by a policy response. Think private trackers. The oppo…

Not necessarily, Yggdrasil flies under the radar because it's inherently hard to block. Tor even more so, the power of Tor is that the more people use it: the stronger it becomes to centralised adversaries. The main issue with Tor is the performance of it though.

I thought that the main issue with tor was that so many of the exit nodes are actually the FBI.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by Aachen »

balamatom wrote: post #838
account42 wrote: post #717

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They can have their fun on their personal websites. Subjecting others to your "fun" when you knows it annoys them is not cool.

While subjecting the entire Internet to industrial-scale abuse by inconsiderate and poorly written crawlers for the sake of building an overhyped "whatever" is of course perfectly acceptable.

Well, to be fair, that's not our doing so not really an argument for why one should accept something one apparently dislikes (I myself find the character funny and it brings a fun moment when it flashes by, but I can understand/accept that others see it differently of course)

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by silversmith »

jones89176 wrote: post #502
silversmith wrote: post #415

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Every now and then I consider stepping away from the computer job, and becoming a lumberjack. This is one of those moments.

my family takes care of a large-ish forest, so I have to help since my early teens. Let me tell you: think twice, it's f*ckin dangerous. Chainsaws, winches, heavy trees falling and breaking in unpredictable ways. I had a couple of close calls myself. Recently a guy from a neighbor village was squashed to death by a root plate that tilted. I often think about quitting tech myself, but becoming a full-time lumberjack i…

Hah, I know, been around forests since childhood, seen (and done) plenty of sketchy stuff. For me it averages out to couple days of forest work a year. It's backbreaking labour, and then you deal with the weather.

But man, if tech goes straight into cyberpunk dystopia but without the cool gadgets, maybe it is the better alternative.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by Aachen »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #430

I have a S24 (flagship of 2024) and Anubis often takes 10-20 seconds to complete, that time is going to add up if more and more sites adopt it, leaning to a worse browsing experience and wasted battery life. Meanwhile AI farms will just run their own nuclear reactors eventually and be unaffected. I really don't understand why someone thought this was a good idea, even if well intentioned.

Which browser and which difficulty setting is that?

Because I've got the same model line but about 3 or 4 years older and it usually just flashes by in the browser Lightning from F-droid which is an OS webview wrapper. On occasion a second or maybe two, I assume that's either bad luck in finding a solution or a site with a higher difficulty setting. Not sure if I've seen it in Fennec (firefox mobile) yet but, if so, it's the same there

I've been surprised that this low threshold stops bots but I'm reading in this thread that it's rather that bot operators mostly just haven't bothered implementing the necessary features yet. It's going to get worse... We've not even won the battle let alone the war. Idk if this is going to be sustainable, we'll see where the web ends up...

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by palata »

xlbuttplug2 wrote: post #833
palata wrote: post #794

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But that does not really answer my question: if a human can prove that they are human anonymously (by getting an anonymous token), what prevents them from passing that token to an AI? The whole point is to prevent a robot from accessing the API. If you want to detect the robot based on its activity, you don't need to bother humans with the token in the first place: just monitor the activity.

It does not prevent a bot from using your ID. But a) the repercussions for getting caught are much more tangible when you can't hide behind anonymity - you risk getting blanket banned from the internet and b) the scale is significantly reduced - how many people are willing to rent/sell their IDs, i.e., their right to access the internet? Edit: ok I see the argument that the feedback mechanism could be difficult when…

> But at the end of the day, privacy preservation is an implementation detail I don't see governments guaranteeing.

Sure, I totally see how you can prevent unwanted activity by identifying the users. My question was about the privacy-preserving way. I just don't see how that would be possible.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by Aachen »

scratchyone wrote: post #409
rhaps0dy wrote: post #230

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latest update from Xe: > After further investigation and communication. This is not a bug. The threat actor group in question installed headless chrome and simply computed the proof of work. I'm just going to submit a default rule that blocks huawei.

this kinda proves the entire project doesn't work if they have to resort to manual IP blocking lol

Doesn't have to be black or white. You can have a much easier challenge for regular visitors if you block the only (and giant) party that has implemented a solver so far. We can work on both fronts at once...

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by palata »

michaelt wrote: post #630
palata wrote: post #510

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Can you elaborate on that? Are you implying that it is strictly impossible to do this in a privacy-preserving way?

It depends on your precise requirements and assumptions. Does your definition of 'privacy-preserving' distrust Google, Apple, Xiaomi, HTC, Honor, Samsung and suchlike? Do you also distrust third-party clowns like experian and equifax (whose current systems have gaping security holes) and distrust large government IT projects (which are outsourced to clowns like Fujutsu who don't know what they're doing) ?? Do you req…

Not sure what you are trying to say.

I can easily imagine having a way to prove my age in a privacy-preserving way: a trusted party knows that I am 18+ and gives me a token that proves that I am 18+ without divulging anything else. I take that token and pass it to the website that requires me to be 18+. The website knows nothing about me other than I have a token that says I am 18+.

Of course, I can get a token and then give it to a child. Just like I can buy cigarettes and give them to a child. But the age verification helps in that I don't want children to access cigarettes, so I won't do it.

The "you are a human" verification fundamentally doesn't work, because the humans who make the bots are not aligned with the objective of the verification. If it's privacy-preserving, it means that a human can get a token, feed it to their bot and call it a day. And nobody will know who gave the token to the bot, precisely because it is privacy-preserving.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by Aachen »

soared wrote: post #370
userbinator wrote: post #331

As I've been saying for a while now - if you want to filter for only humans, ask questions only a human can easily answer; counting the number of letters in a word seems to be a good way to filter out LLMs, for example. Yes, that can be relatively easily gotten around, just like Anubis, but with the benefit that it doesn't filter out humans and has absolutely minimal system requirements (a browser that can submit HTM…

Tried and true method! An old video game forum named moparscape used to ask what mopar was and I always had to google it

Good thing modern bots can't do a web search!

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by [deleted] »

themafia wrote: post #197
jimmaswell wrote: post #12

What exactly is so bad about AI crawlers compared to Google or Bing? Is there more volume or is it just "I don't like AI"?

If you want my help training up your billion dollar model then you should pay me. My content is for humans. If you're not a human you are an unwelcome burden. Search engines, at least, are designed to index the content, for the purpose of helping humans find it. Language models are designed to filch content out of my website so it can reproduce it later without telling the humans where it came from or linking them to…

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