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California has 25% of the 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the US. Last year, while Biden attempted to promote an immigration bill that did not pass, California made Medicaid available to unauthorized immigrants. 22% of California residents are on Medicaid, requiring $85 billion per year in matching federal assistance. Now the state has a $12 billion deficit projection for 2026. Los Angeles city recently issued…

You were talking about billions of dollars but now 1 million is a relevant amount of taxpayer money destroyed? Am I missing something? A million is money, no doubt, but not relevant on a wider scale to any degree.

What amount should we allow to be destroyed before we take steps to protect taxpayer property?

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

#863
post #502

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Exactly The aggressive raids aren't in Florida or Texas, or even California farm county, they're targeting urban areas, and getting the intended headlines.

Not true.. they are doing the raids elsewhere including Texas. Florida cracked down on the state level on businessrs a year ago so not as much of a problem as far as I understand.

> Florida cracked down on the state level on businessrs a year ago so not as much of a problem as far as I understand.

Omg, I’m in tears.

It’s an open “secret” in some industries that it’s trivially easy to hire illegal immigrants en masse through Florida-based “recruiters”.

If this somehow changes, some big R donors are going to be very upset.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Because they don’t really care. It’s just about creating divisions in society to keep people voting for people that do everything against their interests.

Or maybe they just got tired of millions of immigrants flaunting the law and overburdening the system? We had unprecedented levels of illegal immigration over the last four years. Do you think it went unnoticed and didn’t adversely affect anyone? Why jump to these conspiracy notions about division and blatantly ignore the simplest and most obvious explanation.

Can you tell me how all those immigrants "flaunting the law" were affording food and rent, if not for a U.S. citizen paying them for their labor? Why are we not going after those who pay first? Nip the problem in the bud.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were talking about billions of dollars but now 1 million is a relevant amount of taxpayer money destroyed? Am I missing something? A million is money, no doubt, but not relevant on a wider scale to any degree.

What amount should we allow to be destroyed before we take steps to protect taxpayer property?

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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GOP and Dems have been nearly evenly matched for years in Congress now. There was no prospect of dramatic legal overhaul i.m.o., let alone any new Constitutional amendments. Graph: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_Stat...

And they're still nearly evenly matched and Trump is still doing what he's doing. The Democrats could have done all the same stuff Trump is doing, but for good instead of evil. The problem is that the Democrats are not willing to accept that the system is entirely broken, so they keep clinging to a belief in "institutions" that they think will somehow magically protect us, when in fact those institutions are destroyi…

To be precise, Biden had around 5 months of presidential immunity. He could have done a lot as a lame duck, but this was not the case when he came in.

And I think it's even simpler than that. the only bipartisan point is that both sides are bought out by corporate interests. Many reps are not looking out for their constituents.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Or maybe they just got tired of millions of immigrants flaunting the law and overburdening the system? We had unprecedented levels of illegal immigration over the last four years. Do you think it went unnoticed and didn’t adversely affect anyone? Why jump to these conspiracy notions about division and blatantly ignore the simplest and most obvious explanation.

> Do you think it went unnoticed and didn’t adversely affect anyone? Coming as someone living in Texas - yes, it affects no one. It's always been an hallucination. We just attribute random things to "the illegals" when, in reality, they're not hurting anyone. In fact, if you've ever been in Texas, you'd know this state is run by illegals. I drive around and I see homes being built out the wazoo and who's on the roof?…

I guess you didn't see what happened in NYC? Do articles like this sound like, "No one noticed they were here"?

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-migrants-shelter-time-li...

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe they just got tired of millions of immigrants flaunting the law and overburdening the system? We had unprecedented levels of illegal immigration over the last four years. Do you think it went unnoticed and didn’t adversely affect anyone? Why jump to these conspiracy notions about division and blatantly ignore the simplest and most obvious explanation.

Honest question, because I don't see it here in Colorado: Who has it adversely affected? Crime rates among illegal immigrants are lower than the rest of the population [1] [2] [3] and illegal immigrants are the backbone of our agricultural system [4] So ... who is hurt and how badly are they hurt? Because when I see the amount of perfectly legal murder, robbery and torture happening in the U.S. [5] [6] [7] [8] I just…

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-migrants-shelter-time-li...

https://nhjournal.com/as-illegal-immigrants-swamp-mas-emerge...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/migrant-arrested-broad-daylight-r...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/migrant-custody-person-interest-ra...

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/salvadoran-illegal-immig...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/haitian-migrant-accused...

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

#870
post #556

Politics aside, LA just can't seem to catch a break. Floods last year, fires earlier this year and now this. That said, what the current administration is doing is almost like they're following a manual other countries followed on their road to nationalistic decline and all the right people in places of power seem to know this. I wonder if they're ready for it? My observation is that the previous administration had f…

> All of humanity might suffer, at least that's my fear. Suffer compared to what? That's the alternative? Number 1 stays number 1? The world works in peaks and troughs, swings and roundabouts. What goes up must come down. Time marches on, change happens. This comes with suffering, but is also the definition of progress. Nothing is the best forever, and the one's at the top who don't acknowledge that are the ones with…

The alternative would have been for competition to have a new power surpass the stagnant US, something like Taiwan. Not for US to shoot itself in the foot and completely destroy its foreign policy. There's already so much tension in the world that it wouldn't take much of a spark for WW3 to legititmatize.
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