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Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did they trick them by giving them free money?

They don't know how but they know it has to be a scam because it's crypto. That's all the thought that's gone into it.

It’s not a scam because it’s a cryptocurrency, it’s a scam because it works like one. This has been covered at length by multiple investigative journalists.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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First Windsurf and now this. OpenAI is spending billions like there's nothing else to use this money for while being seemingly cash strapped for model training since they already signaled more investment rounds would be needed to remain competitive. They're trying to become too big to fail before they have a moat which won't work well.

They've already claimed that there will be no "GPT-5" LLM, and that instead what they want to call "GPT-5" is a fusion of their various models like 4o, dalle, their video model, etc. That in and of itself is a move that makes it quite clear to me they've hit a wall on the intelligence side. Add these purchases, and it seems like they are extremely desperate.

I don't think your conclusion of "hitting the wall on intelligence" is warranted.

It makes more sense to believe that scaling has hit the wall on available text data to train on, and that to continue scaling, along with whatever emergent properties arise they need much more data than exists as text.

There are orders of magnitude more data as video, audio, and images and this is what they intend to use to continue scaling.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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A while back someone here on Hacker News made a pretty insightful comment that as great of a designer as Jony Ive is, a large part of his success is owed to the fact that he had an "editor" in the form of Steve Jobs. Once Jobs passed, he no longer really had an editor. It remains to be seen whether Sam Altman / OpenAI in general will be a good editor

Altman clearly has vision and a sense for where the puck is going with AI, but being a design editor is something else entirely

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Just need a way to talk to ChatGPT anytime. Microphone, speaker and permanent connection to ChatGPT. That’s all you need: io One need is being able to talk to ChatGPT in a whisper or silent voice… so you can do it in public. I don’t think that comes from them, but it will be big when it does. Much easier than brain implants! In an ear device, you need enough data of listening to the muscles and the sounds together, t…

The real challenge, though, is going to be trust and usability. Always-on AI devices listening to whispers, watching context… that’s a privacy tightrope

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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So does openai know how to widen the context window without it taking more money? Otherwise Google wins, again. And this is all boring. Gemini 2.5 pro preview where you can just insert all files you have and actually it doesn't compress and has it in memory is just what you want. All the compression tricks etc really are shit compared. 32k input tokens is a joke now once you tried this. As in bearish on openai if the…

The real question is who gets to "good enough" memory for cheap first - and whether they can do it without hallucinating or degrading performance

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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I have a feeling OpenAI will eventually be looked back on as the company that forced Google to release its internal AI product and then died a slow death.

But can they transition from being "the lab that shocked the world" to a sustainable product company in a hyper-competitive space?

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

#868

A while back someone here on Hacker News made a pretty insightful comment that as great of a designer as Jony Ive is, a large part of his success is owed to the fact that he had an "editor" in the form of Steve Jobs. Once Jobs passed, he no longer really had an editor. It remains to be seen whether Sam Altman / OpenAI in general will be a good editor

Altman clearly has vision and a sense for where the puck is going with AI, but being a design editor is something else entirely

Clearly? I don’t think that’s certain at all.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bit of a risk for Ive, as until now he is credited with Apple's lauded design. If he does not produce an immediate success it'll be brand damaging and wobble on his reputation. I also suspect it might go that way: post-Ive designs have been credited as being better, particularly around apple's laptops that were perceived as too heavily favouring form over function. More realistically Apple's design is good…

Why does Ive need to be churning out continuous hits? There is no shame in quitting while ahead, or considering your previous success to be a tough act to follow. I feel similar about Zuckerberg. That guy should just let the government break up his empire, let some other people run the pieces, and retire. Otherwise he just faces humiliation and being in over his head. But I guess ego keeps these people going.

You don't get where Zuck is without a huge ego and power hunger. If is plan was to retire as a billionaire, he could have done so years ago.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Just need a way to talk to ChatGPT anytime. Microphone, speaker and permanent connection to ChatGPT. That’s all you need: io One need is being able to talk to ChatGPT in a whisper or silent voice… so you can do it in public. I don’t think that comes from them, but it will be big when it does. Much easier than brain implants! In an ear device, you need enough data of listening to the muscles and the sounds together, t…

> 5. … like a clip. Something that attaches to clothes. I feel like the most natural thing would be basically push-to-talk-to-AI: 1. Some sort of mic + earpiece that you can wear comfortably(e.g. airpods) 2. A wireless button that you can put on a ring to activate the mic in the most ergonomic way possible 3. Any time you press the button, everything you say gets sent to a running AI chat

That's genius!

Like a pin. With AI. And it would talk to you like a human, so we could call it the Humane AI Pin.

How did nobody thought about that?

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